Re: [Tagging] railway=platform nodes at tram stops

2018-02-20 Thread Jo
railway=platform unambiguously refers to an actual platform, mapped as a way or as an area. public_transport=platform + tram=yes (+railway=tram_stop) can be mapped on an isolated node (so not part of the railway=* way). It would be my preference to ONLY map it on (isolated) nodes. That's what I

Re: [Tagging] railway=platform nodes at tram stops

2018-02-20 Thread Selfish Seahorse
> in osm, platform is where people wait to take the train. > people always are "somewhere" before taking the train. > osm platform <> irl plateform Do you mean `public_transport=platform` [^1], `railway=platform` [^2] or both? If `railway=platform` means the same as `public_transport=platform`,

Re: [Tagging] railway=platform nodes at tram stops

2018-02-20 Thread marc marc
Le 20. 02. 18 à 21:50, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : > On 20 February 2018 at 21:24, marc marc wrote: >> Le 20. 02. 18 à 21:17, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : >>> If no one objects, I'd like to change the wiki page [^1] so that >>> `railway=platform` should not be used on

Re: [Tagging] railway=platform nodes at tram stops

2018-02-20 Thread Selfish Seahorse
> Since the Wiki defines the 'platform' as 'the place where passengers > wait for the vehicle', it doesn't have to be anything in particular. A > patch of sidewalk could indeed be a light rail 'platform'. This is only true for `public_transport=platform` [^1] but not for `railway=platform`: the

Re: [Tagging] railway=platform nodes at tram stops

2018-02-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Selfish Seahorse wrote: > iD's new 'Tram Stop / Platform' preset adds a `railway=platform` tag > even on nodes. I thought this were a bug [^1], but the wiki [^2] says: > >> platforms: `public_transport=platform` + `railway=platform` If

Re: [Tagging] railway=platform nodes at tram stops

2018-02-20 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 20. 02. 18 à 21:17, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : > If no one objects, I'd like to change the wiki page [^1] so that > `railway=platform` should not be used on nodes. I objets and request to do the opposite : remove the "forbiden" node for railway=platform in almost all osm objects, it

[Tagging] railway=platform nodes at tram stops

2018-02-20 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hello iD's new 'Tram Stop / Platform' preset adds a `railway=platform` tag even on nodes. I thought this were a bug [^1], but the wiki [^2] says: > platforms: `public_transport=platform` + `railway=platform` If the platform > is just a pole with a sign and the tram stops on the road without a

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 February 2018 at 09:00, Philip Barnes wrote: > As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow Way Well, as a native English speaker, I have. It's what gave the name to "Holloway Head", in Birmingham: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/430568379

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > As Andy says Hollow Way is an archaic term, of which the Oxford English > Dictionary contains many. > > More contemporary organisations use the term sunken lane for example > The National Trust >

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

2018-02-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
pon, 19. velj 2018. u 19:18 François Lacombe napisao je: > > Are we talking about a new value like waterway=aqueduct ? > I would really like a new waterway value because the ones we have are too restricting. "River" and "stream" cover natural waterways, and man made

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 02/20/2018 08:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 20. Feb 2018, at 00:57, Dave F wrote: But not for its original purpose, as it is in this cae in the original “purpose”, yes. A historic=memorial is and likely ever was a memorial.

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Dave F
On 20/02/2018 07:40, joost schouppe wrote: Some of the most used historical tags are for things that are just old, not necessarily disused or with another use than the original one. As I said, everything has a history. Wayside cross and shrine, monuments, memorials, castles etc. It just

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Dave F
...and water. As the On 20/02/2018 14:30, Philip Barnes wrote: In this case, they are old and have a history. They started as tracks and usually still are. Which is why they should be tagged as track/footway etc. They are sunken purely by the passage of time, wear from feet, hooves and

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
In this case, they are old and have a history. They started as tracks and usually still are. They are sunken purely by the passage of time, wear from feet, hooves and cartwheels. Phil (trigpoint) On 20 February 2018 13:57:33 GMT+00:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2018-02-19 at 20:20 +, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 19/02/2018 09:00, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow > > Way, > > however reading the description it seems that this proposal is > > describing what is called a Sunken Lane. > >

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Feb 2018, at 00:57, Dave F wrote: > > But not for its original purpose, as it is in this cae in the original “purpose”, yes. A historic=memorial is and likely ever was a memorial. An archaeological site was something else in the past,

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/02/2018 07:40, joost schouppe wrote: Some of the most used historical tags are for things that are just old, not necessarily disused or with another use than the original one. Wayside cross and shrine, monuments, memorials, castles etc. It just seems to signify a special relationship