[Tagging] Is there any tagging to explicitly tag service times of mass?

2018-04-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I know that there is possibility to tag just service_times[1] but I wish to tag explicitly opening hours of mass - I thought about using both service_times and service_times:mass Note that churches may provide numerous religious services, for example based on what I remember just now, just in Pola

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread osm.tagging
I noticed that French Community is a member of the Belgium relation twice. Once with subarea as role, and once with an empty role. Probably an error? From: André Pirard Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2018 11:34 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools ; Yuri Astrakhan Subject: [Tagging] Id

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Andre, I wish I saw when you posted it earlier :) Do you record the language codes anywhere? I looked at the regions you specified, but they have names, not the actual language codes, and when working with data, codes are much easier to use. On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 4:33 AM, André Pirard wrote:

[Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread André Pirard
On 2018-04-18 21:41, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > What would be the best tags to use for mapping language regions?  I > would like to create a map of primary languages spoken in an area. > This will greatly help with multilingual maps, allowing data consumers > to calculate which language name tags to u

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Apr 2018, at 00:06, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > The question "what is the majority/official language in region X" or > "country Y", on the other hand, tends to have a clear answer. yes, if you look at the majority language in a whole country this is typically easy to

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
While it is certainly possible for the country to have hundreds of languages, I am pretty sure it is rare for a single village to speak them all. In such cases, the granularity could go down to smaller units than a country (and if OSM is capable of storing hundreds of millions of buildings, I'm sur

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread marc marc
what's TSKM ? for Switzerland, we talk about it a few months ago. The discussion lacked participants. but some was thinking that adding official languages on the boundary could be useful for rendering and tracking officially multilingual places (name with multiple value is a very heavy (=bad) co

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
An example, good luck : 56 TSKM, 39 Languages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Togo 41 TSKM, 4 languages : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland (Germany : 357 TSKM) Am 18.04.2018 um 21:49 schrieb Vao Matua: > I would suggest that OSM is probably not the best place for this.  > Ther

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Vao Matua
I suggest doing a Google image search for "language map Nigeria" to see how problematic this suggestion will be. OpenStreetMap is not a full function geospatial information tool. Mapping thousands of languages might be tidy in North America, but will make a mess in other parts of the world. Vao O

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/18/2018 09:41 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > A relation may span multiple countries (e.g. US and most of Canada for > English), or split countries (e.g. EN and FR regions in Canada). In some > cases, the relation will reuse country border ways. We had a discussion about time zones here rec

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-04-18 22:40 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan : > Vao, I think OSM is perfect for this specifically because you need local > knowledge like what you describe to create it :) It would not be possible > to create it as accurately without that on-the-ground info. Of course we > can also expand the act

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
Majority language boundaries would be enough for most use cases. Sample tagging: type=boundary boundary=language name=Italiano ref= 18-04-2018 22:49 tarihinde Vao Matua yazdı: > I would suggest that OSM is probably not the best place for this.  > There are many countries that have many or even hu

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Vao, I think OSM is perfect for this specifically because you need local knowledge like what you describe to create it :) It would not be possible to create it as accurately without that on-the-ground info. Of course we can also expand the actual tags based on such feedback. On Wed, Apr 18, 201

Re: [Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Vao Matua
I would suggest that OSM is probably not the best place for this. There are many countries that have many or even hundreds of languages. The lines between the places where languages are commonly spoken can be quite fuzzy and often do not follow any other features. A year ago I was living in a pla

[Tagging] Identifying language regions

2018-04-18 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
What would be the best tags to use for mapping language regions? I would like to create a map of primary languages spoken in an area. This will greatly help with multilingual maps, allowing data consumers to calculate which language name tags to use for which locale. This will also give OSM commun

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

2018-04-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Apr 2018, at 21:23, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > The currently documented > solution (using natural=tree) makes it obvious that the nodes represent > real-world objects. +1, with natural=tree_stump there is even a tag for the gaps (well, unless there is literally nothi

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

2018-04-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
Hi Peter, On 18.04.2018 13:53, Peter Elderson wrote: > I am exploring the possibility of proposing a new key for spacing of > more or less regularly distributed objects along a way or over an area. I like the idea. Way back, during the the tree row proposal, it was suggested that either this key

[Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

2018-04-18 Thread Peter Elderson
> The term spacing to me would suggest "space between", i.e. the clear > distance between the things. I would prefer to use the distance of the > centres (dimension between axes / centres) of things. It is also easier to > estimate (total distance / (number-1)) and you don't have to assume median >

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

2018-04-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-04-18 13:53 GMT+02:00 Peter Elderson : > Hi, I'm new on this list. Please correct me (be gentle...) if I breach > any protocols or agreements about how to start issues or proposals > > I am exploring the possibility of proposing a new key for spacing of more > or less regularly distributed o

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

2018-04-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
The term spacing to me would suggest "space between", i.e. the clear distance between the things. I would prefer to use the distance of the centres (dimension between axes / centres) of things. It is also easier to estimate (total distance / (number-1)) and you don't have to assume median diameters

[Tagging] RFC - Key: spacing=*

2018-04-18 Thread Peter Elderson
Hi, I'm new on this list. Please correct me (be gentle...) if I breach any protocols or agreements about how to start issues or proposals I am exploring the possibility of proposing a new key for spacing of more or less regularly distributed objects along a way or over an area. This is part of a