Re: [Tagging] Lane geometry in OSM

2018-08-02 Thread Tom Hardy
I've experimented a bit with lane and road attributes as in https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/505256201 and the adjoining intersection. No width, but number, function and placement of lanes. For placement, I always selected the center of the throughway. This allows renderers that pay no

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-02 Thread Andrew Hain
It’s not absolutely necessary but you get the chance of some feedback from other OSM users that you may appreciate later if you do it, together with the chance to advertise the tagging scheme to other mappers or data consumers. Think of it as your call, there are other ways especially for

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-02 Thread Szem
I would just ask that this proposal process is absolutely necessary? (I don't want to bypass it simply I don't know) 2018.08.02. 21:25 keltezéssel, Marc Gemis írta: Kevin, Just to prepare you a bit: it's very well possible that you will get objections very late in the approval process. eg.

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
Kevin, Just to prepare you a bit: it's very well possible that you will get objections very late in the approval process. eg. during the voting phase from people that never discussed the tag before. We've seen this e.g. with amenity/tourism=reception(_desk), where people just ignored all previous

Re: [Tagging] Lane geometry in OSM

2018-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
OSM has a free tagging model. That means that everybody can use any tag they want. But this is not workable of course. Therefore we try to seek consensus on how we can tag certain features. One way to do this is by writing a proposal, asking for comments, improving the proposal, and having a vote

[Tagging] Lane geometry in OSM

2018-08-02 Thread John Lambert
Hello OSM Tagging, I have a question about the use of detailed lane geometry to OpenStreetMap, like (1) lane centerlines, or (2) lane boundaries, (3) variable lane width, or (4) lane connectivity. Currently, all I see are: *(1) how many marked lanes are there on a highway, e.g. * *(2) which

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Is there a documented process for putting a proposal? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process > I'm certainly willing to draft the text, although I'm not going to be able > to do it before the weekend. Can someone else run

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
Is there a documented process for putting a proposal? I'm certainly willing to draft the text, although I'm not going to be able to do it before the weekend. Can someone else run the proposal process or at least guide me through it? On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 12:55 PM Szem wrote: > A couple of us

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-02 Thread Szem
A couple of us have said their opinion. It seems to me nobody have said the access=permit tag is useless. And now, what is the next step? Worldwide the 97% of editors have not read this mailing list. Without written a short explanation in the wiki only a few editor will use it, or they will use

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/08/18 23:00, Paul Allen wrote: > > I recently came across someone adding the address as the name, > unfortunately one of the buildings had a real name that I recalled .. and > it was not the address. > So while the

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Warin
On 02/08/18 23:00, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:48 PM, althio > wrote: For the Old Course at Saint Andrews (ancient and well-known golf course), holes do have names. See the Wikipedia page or the website.

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:48 PM, althio wrote: > For the Old Course at Saint Andrews (ancient and well-known golf course), > holes do have names. > > See the Wikipedia page or the website. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Course_at_St_Andrews#Scorecard > > I think tags on OSM should be (it

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread althio
For the Old Course at Saint Andrews (ancient and well-known golf course), holes do have names. See the Wikipedia page or the website. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Course_at_St_Andrews#Scorecard I think tags on OSM should be (it is not the case currently): ref=1 name=Burn ref=2 name=Dyke

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry.. don't know what an 'allotment plot' is? I don't see that mentioned > in the OSMwikis for golf. > Allotment plots are nothing to do with golf. I brought them up as another example, like putting greens, where it has

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Warin
Sorry.. don't know what an 'allotment plot' is? I don't see that mentioned in the OSMwikis for golf. I follow the rest of the 'ref' argument. Will have to look at it. On 02/08/18 22:09, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Chris Hill > wrote: I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Line clamps

2018-08-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:49 AM, François Lacombe wrote: > > Indeed there are situations where many kind of clamping is used. I think > about line_clamp=mixed > Especially for such poles : https://previews.123rf.com/ > images/saovadee/saovadee1406/saovadee140600044/28858354- >

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > I think people use the ref tag because that makes sense. > In some situations, where name=* is already used for one thing but a reference number is also needed, it makes sense. In other situations t doesn't make sense (to me) to use ref,

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Chris Hill
I think people use the ref tag because that makes sense. I'm not a golfer but on allotments the whole site usually has a name and the individual plots have a number (ref=*). The OSM Standard map can't show everything. We used to have a map like that as a sort of 'debug' map for mappers; it was