Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-05 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 6, 2018 12:30 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd think this should be a relation - not a way. > At the moment the proposals says it is only a way. > > And it might be better to place it

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
I'd think this should be a relation - not a way. At the moment the proposals says it is only a way. And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key? Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for relations. Arr well. Rendering... yes .. a rendering for

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
> This mirrors the associatedStreet approaches taken by different OSM communities regarding addresses: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key: addr vs https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:associatedStreet. Most of the same pros/cons apply, though with sidewalks there is a lot more

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-05 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Last year I made a feature proposal[0] last year regarding evacuation routes. There were a couple of recommended changes to the RFC[1] and while I agreed with them I 1) failed to make them and 2) got side tracked on a couple of other

Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
> "Own front door" to the street, or onto the corridor ie one front door servicing multiple "units"? Own front door to your unit, I think. > Isn't this tag doing the same as rooms: under the hotel tag? Yes. Actually https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dapartment recommends

[Tagging] RFC - landcover clearing

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
Hi, I have been looking at the values used with the landuse key to try and stop land covers becoming regarded as a legitimate use of the key landuse. One strange value I came across was 'clearing'. No OSM wiki document. I resolved this to mean a change in land cover usually from trees to a

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
On 06/08/18 09:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I would think a good start would be changing the wiki to make it historic=flood_level, leaving any reference to high (or low) water to be a waterways thing ie the high tide mark. +1 Very sensible IMO. Yes. Complication .. a historic king tide

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Dave Swarthout
> I would think a good start would be changing the wiki to make it historic=flood_level, leaving any reference to high (or low) water to be a waterways thing ie the high tide mark. +1 Very sensible IMO. On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On 6 August 2018 at 02:48,

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 6 August 2018 at 02:48, Robert Szczepanek wrote: > W dniu 05.08.2018 o 12:23, Volker Schmidt pisze: > >> Flood marks and high water marks are not necessarily the same thing. >> Read >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_water_mark >> to get the gist. >> There are ordinary high water marks

Re: [Tagging] mobile phone repair only

2018-08-05 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 05.08.2018 19:52, Dave F wrote: I've a shop which only repairs mobile phones. I've tagged it as shop=mobile_phone mobile_phone:repair=yes sales=no I'd call that 'troll tagging', tagging a feature and telling in the subtag that it is not what the primary tag says [1]. Why not following

Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 5 August 2018 at 19:22, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Terminology does seem to vary around the world with apartment, flat, unit > all being interchangeable, I see the building:flats tag as the number of > self-contained residential units (where a unit has it's own front door, > kitchen, toilet

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-05 Thread marc marc
Le 05. 08. 18 à 20:39, Philip Barnes a écrit : > On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 19:17 +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> I would expect that there are countries where nurses dispense basic >> medical care from a surgery-type of location. > > But a nurse isn't a mappable object, the mappable object is the >

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-05 Thread marc marc
I'm interested by the premise/local/office/room where a nurse work. those 2 url doesn't help, healthcare key on wiki doesn't have the word nurse on it. social_facility is wrong for this case. Le 05. 08. 18 à 17:56, Dave F a écrit : > Could you clarity: Are you interested in the noun - 'a nurse'

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread SelfishSeahorse
Hi Tobias Yes, sidewalk mapped as ways are problematical for routeing. In order to not create islands in (residential) areas without marked crossings, one has to map unmarked crossings. If there are lowered kerbs or if a sidewalk is just interrupted by a perpendicular street, it seems okay to map

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Line clamps

2018-08-05 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 3:20 PM, François Lacombe wrote: > > 2018-08-03 15:34 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen : > > >> It is Brtish *layman's* English. It would be a good idea to check with >> somebody who works in the industry. But I suspect >> he or she will tell you it's an insulator. In British

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread SelfishSeahorse
Hola On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 at 18:44, yo paseopor wrote: > Why the road is the only item I don't have any doubt to tag it with name= ? > Why the road is more important than the sidewalk or the cycleway? What is > more important : person, car or bike? Because a sidewalk is a part of a road (like a

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 19:17 +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I would expect that there are countries where nurses dispense basic > medical care from a surgery-type of location. > They most certainly do, that happens in the UK. But a nurse isn't a mappable object, the mappable object is the

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread Nick Bolten
Thanks for the examples! I've run into this issue as well, many times, and it's like I said: the 'name' tag is meant to answer the question 'what is the name of this thing?', sidewalks themselves usually don't have names, and the street name isn't the name of the sidewalk. We've been trying to

[Tagging] mobile phone repair only

2018-08-05 Thread Dave F
Hi I've a shop which only repairs mobile phones. I've tagged it as shop=mobile_phone mobile_phone:repair=yes sales=no Seems a bit contradictory. Is there a more direct tag? Cheers DaveF ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
I would expect that there are countries where nurses dispense basic medical care from a surgery-type of location. On 5 August 2018 at 16:16, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Philip Barnes > wrote: > >> In my experience a nurse is not a mappable object. >> > > You win the

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
We have already a tag for footway/foot-cycle-ways/cycleways that indicates that the way is a sidewalk/sidepath: - footway=sidewalk for footpaths ( 881747 in taginfo) - path=sidewalk (1090 in taginfo) or path=sidepath (790 in taginfo) for foot-cycle-ways - cycleway=sidepath (2450 in

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Robert Szczepanek
W dniu 05.08.2018 o 12:23, Volker Schmidt pisze: Flood marks and high water marks are not necessarily the same thing. Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_water_mark to get the gist. There are ordinary high water marks (and I suppose also the opposite, ordinary low water marks) which are

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread yo paseopor
Oks I will show you: http://bit.ly/2M2Ff6J > Cycle way with name , you can see the name of the street when you are riding by it. http://bit.ly/2M8VRK6 > sidewalk without name, you can see the order without any indication of name (openroute use then the nearest, I think) The question is with a

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-05 Thread Dave F
Could you clarity: Are you interested in the noun - 'a nurse' or verb - 'to nurse'? There are many varieties of nurses & many establishments where people are nursed: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:social_facility DaveF On

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread Nick Bolten
The most common convention is to tag footways with a name only if it has its own designated title, like a particularly famous path (and that is often better on a relation). I'm not totally sure if I'm understanding your question, but what are some examples where you're unsure about the tags? On

Re: [Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 05.08.2018 17:16, yo paseopor wrote: > So what is the correct way to map it: with name? or without name? Adding name tags to separately mapped sidewalks is an attempt to fix just one of the symptoms of a deeper problem: The lack of a machine-readable link between the sidewalk way and the road

[Tagging] Put the name in sidewalks and cycleways

2018-08-05 Thread yo paseopor
Here it is a doubt we have in Spanish Community. Some people are making micromapping so we start to map the sidewalks and cycleways not as value but as an independent way. I know when you map a street wen can put most of the items as keys and values.But when the items are mapped separately should

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Yves
Spotted thanks to Osmand: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2401935175 Yves Le 5 août 2018 12:23:40 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >Flood marks and high water marks are not necessarily the same thing. >Read >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_water_mark >to get the gist. >There are

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-05 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > In my experience a nurse is not a mappable object. > You win the internetz. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-05 Thread Philip Barnes
In my experience a nurse is not a mappable object. They will work in (or out of) different health care facilities. A nursing home is a specialist care home for residents that have medical needs and they will have nurses to provide medical care for those residents. The district nurse, who will

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
Flood marks and high water marks are not necessarily the same thing. Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_water_mark to get the gist. There are ordinary high water marks (and I suppose also the opposite, ordinary low water marks) which are based on the regular tides in the area. A flood mark

Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread marc marc
Le 05. 08. 18 à 11:22, Andrew Harvey a écrit : > I wouldn't recommend building:flats=1 on a house, according to the wiki > house is already "A single dwelling unit usually inhabited by one family." "usually" as you said. somes houses host 2 units. it's again the issue with missing "default

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Aug 2018, at 18:03, Robert Szczepanek wrote: > > Indeed not all flood marks are really old/historic. But that threshold is > probably very fuzzy. I would put it like this: although they are not all old, they are all history related (they show a historic flood

Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Aug 2018, at 11:22, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > Terminology does seem to vary around the world with apartment, flat, unit all > being interchangeable, maybe flat and apartment are interchangeable (could you call a 2-level apartment a “flat”?) but unit is definitely

Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
Terminology does seem to vary around the world with apartment, flat, unit all being interchangeable, I see the building:flats tag as the number of self-contained residential units (where a unit has it's own front door, kitchen, toilet (room) and bathroom). I wouldn't recommend building:flats=1 on

Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread marc marc
Le 05. 08. 18 à 01:39, Warin a écrit : > On 05/08/18 08:59, marc marc wrote: >> Le 05. 08. 18 à 00:47, Andrew Harvey a écrit : >>> What's the process to change the Status from "In use" to "Approved"? >> write a propal, request for comment, call for voting >>