Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 10:17, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 19:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > No, driveway/-through is good for a fuel station, as well as anywhere > else that you don't get out of your car to be served eg take-away, car > wash, bottle shop (liquor store) >

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 07:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 3. Aug 2020, at 22:10, Tod Fitch wrote: > > > > Looking at wikipedia, it seems that “storm drain” is used in the UK, > Canada and the US [1]. And there is an “inlet” [2] associated with it. What > are the opinions using: > > > >

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 06:20, Tod Fitch wrote: > I’ve yet to find a term or tag name that I like for the case where the > water disappears from the surface in a desert environment. & I don't think you're going to find one, because there's "nothing" to point to on the ground & say "There, that's

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 06:43, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > I have previously proposed that estuaries should be mapped by extending > the coastline upstream to the limit of the estuary, and also mapping the > area of the estuary as water with water=estuary > Good solution! It's not one thing or

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

I’ve yet to find a term or tag name that I like for the case where the water disappears from the surface in a desert environment. One issue is the location will vary depending on how big the storm was (or perhaps for a seasonal stream how wet the preceding wet season was). So it might be a tag

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 19:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > No, driveway/-through is good for a fuel station, as well as anywhere else > that you don't get out of your car to be served eg take-away, car wash, > bottle shop (liquor store) In some parts of the world you have to get out of your car

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > Am Mi., 22. Juli 2020 um 17:27 Uhr schrieb Tod Fitch >: > It certainly would not be my pick of terms, but it seems manhole=drain has an > appropriate definition in the wiki [1] and considerable

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 01:10, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > It's also often unclear if an otherwise undesignated road with > provides access to, or navigation of, a larger area (consider a mall > perimeter road as an example), should be a "driveway". > > *If* we need a tag (on which note, I'll point

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

sent from a phone > On 3. Aug 2020, at 23:57, Jmapb wrote: > > The official postal version of the street name may be tagged as > `official_name`; IMHO official_name is not a suitable tag for an officially unnamed road with an official postal name. At least not around here, where streets get

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 8/3/2020 4:36 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 15:29 Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: ...Regardless, if this general approach is considered valid and workable, then I'd like to propose the following answer to my original question:   * Q) How should

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Ground: natural=bare_soil)

Everyone, the voting period for natural=bare_ground is still open for 4 more days. I would recommend voting "no" on the current definition, unfortunately. As mentioned above, the current definition is far too broad, and could easily be construed to include areas under construction, areas of bare

Re: [Tagging] Waterway equivalent of noexit=yes?

sent from a phone > On 3. Aug 2020, at 22:10, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Looking at wikipedia, it seems that “storm drain” is used in the UK, Canada > and the US [1]. And there is an “inlet” [2] associated with it. What are the > opinions using: > > storm_drain = inlet I would suggest to use

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

Consider the Saint Lawrence river. Often the Rio de la Plata is claimed to be the widest river estuary in the world, but some maps of the Saint Lawrence estuary show it extending all the way to the eastern tip of Île d'Anticosti (Anticosti Island), which would make the mouth of the river estuary

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 15:29 Jmapb wrote: > > ...Regardless, if this general approach is considered valid and > workable, then I'd like to propose the following answer to my original > question: > > * Q) How should `addr:street` be tagged for an address along an > unnamed way which is part of a

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 8/3/2020 6:07 AM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: There is some fuzzy matching, you can expect to work, for example abbreviations like street -> st or even New York -> NY. But going from ref=NY-214 to 'State Highway 214' is already a long stretch that requires special local knowledge. Understood.

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

> De: "Kevin Kenny" > Para: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > Enviados: Domingo, 2 de Agosto 2020 11:03:09 > Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:42 PM Paul Norman via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org > wrote: >> Starting locally, the

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

- Mensaje original - > De: "Christoph Hormann" > Para: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > Enviados: Lunes, 3 de Agosto 2020 16:27:12 > Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war > On Monday 03 August 2020, mural...@montevideo.com.uy wrote: >> >> The scientific view,

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

- Mensaje original - > De: "Christoph Hormann" > Para: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > Enviados: Domingo, 2 de Agosto 2020 7:29:05 > Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war > On Sunday 02 August 2020, Paul Norman via Tagging wrote: >> >> I would consider an area

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

On Monday 03 August 2020, mural...@montevideo.com.uy wrote: > > The scientific view, and what can be experienced or observed here is > that the coastline ends in Punta del Este. And the line to Punta Rasa > is a good average of the limit. Where should be put the coasline if > not here? Hello

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

- Mensaje original - > De: "Christoph Hormann" > Para: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > Enviados: Sábado, 1 de Agosto 2020 14:52:40 > Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war > On Friday 31 July 2020, Andy Townsend wrote: >> >> For what it's worth, neither extreme

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

> De: "Alan Mackie" > Para: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > Enviados: Sábado, 1 de Agosto 2020 13:26:06 > Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war > On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 07:21, Paul Norman via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org > > wrote: >> On 2020-07-31 8:21 a.m.,

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

> De: "Paul Norman via Tagging" > Para: tagging@openstreetmap.org > CC: "Paul Norman" > Enviados: Sábado, 1 de Agosto 2020 3:18:34 > Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war > On 2020-07-31 8:21 a.m., Andy Townsend wrote: >> On 26/05/2020 00:20, Alan Mackie wrote: >>> Has this edit war

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

Hi, - Mensaje original - > De: "frederik" > Para: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Enviados: Viernes, 31 de Julio 2020 19:16:50 > Asunto: Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war > Hi, > > I don't know the region myself so I am limited to anecdotal evidence as > found on the web: > > *

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On 01/08/2020 20.40, David Dean wrote: I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging approaches of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can have a service=? associated tag. Having done, so I'm planning on resurrecting

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 31/07/2020 15.39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: the authority for names are the local people. I would bet that some of them would refer to this particular road as State Highway 214 if they should name it in a formal way. NY 214 is a ref, no doubt, and is fine to have, but so is State Highway

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 14:02, Tobias Zwick wrote: Maybe service=property_access would be a little more clear. Or not. Because it overlaps with service=driveway. Especially as property is often used to describe dwellings. > Of course, strictly speaking, pretty much all the above are also >

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

> For the second type of highway=service with no service tagging, what > about using service=access?  The issue with this is that basically this is the definition of highway=service already without any extra tags: It provides access to something. Be it the rear/side of buildings (alley), the

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

service=parking_access also sounds most clear to me. On the other hand, service=parking is already used almost 2000 times so documenting that as "main access road in a parking" would just be documenting the status quo, no proposal necessary, which is certainly easier. IF after research one can

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 05:09, David Dean wrote: > > For the second type of highway=service with no service tagging, what about > using service=access? > How about because not all service roads that don't currently fit into service=* would be viewed by some as access roads? The service roads in

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 06:06:37PM -0400, Jmapb wrote: > On 7/31/2020 4:24 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > > > Put one of the variants into addr:street and then all the variants > > as alternative names onto the road. Obviously that stretch of road > > is referred to under all these names, so this is

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

Am Mo., 3. Aug. 2020 um 11:06 Uhr schrieb Tom Pfeifer < t.pfei...@computer.org>: > Possibilities discussed were: > > service=parking_access > service=main > service=access > service=major apart "access", all of these seem better than "parking". My preference would go to the more neutral "main"

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

I agree that it would be helpful to distinguish more subtypes of highway=service. However I find the proposed 'service=parking' misleading, as it suggests the way itself is used for parking, not that it provides access to such facility. I started a similar discussion four years ago, here is

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

sent from a phone > On 3. Aug 2020, at 06:09, David Dean wrote: > > On the main parking road, I think we are largely in agreement that > service=parking would be a good addition to OSM documentation (and is already > in use throughout the world, as such). if we need a specific service