Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread NickKatchur via Tagging
OP here. While there has been an overwhelming amount of feedback (or criticism) for the proposal. I'd like to discuss thoughts and changes to the proposal based on this discussion and that on the community forum

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Colin Smale
Also true but no need for the "quotes". Mountain rescue teams don't just need to call 112/999. And although you can often make an emergency call without a SIM (I believe this does not actually work in the UK) nobody can call you unless you are registered and authorised on a network. On 7

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 8/6/23 14:18, NickKatchur via Tagging wrote: Hello, I have developed a proposal to indicate the availability of cell phone service at nodes and areas, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Cell_reception . This is

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:32:12 +0200 Marc_marc wrote: > Hello, > > Le 06.08.23 à 21:18, NickKatchur via Tagging a écrit : > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Cell_reception > > I'm a bit amused, or rather disappointed, to read comments like > "it's complicated to estimate the

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread bkil
Just a note about your "fact": your phone can roam to any available network when you are dialing the emergency number. You can even dial it without a SIM inserted in most countries. Hence why it displays the text "emergency calls only" in such cases. Circuits towards the emergency number are also

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Colin Smale
Two users on the same network standing next to each other can get different results. They may be connected to different base stations. CDMA is a whole other can of worms. There are so many variables, it's impossible to give detailed data for "cell phone reception at location X". But the

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 06.08.23 à 21:18, NickKatchur via Tagging a écrit : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Cell_reception I'm a bit amused, or rather disappointed, to read comments like "it's complicated to estimate the number of reception bars because it depends on the phone". Were these

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Also, from a practical point of view, data points about cell service are not going to have any relationship to other items in the osm database. And, they are likely going to be semi-automatically collected, and people probably want contour lines that are generated from points, not the points.

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, I completely second comments about how variable mobile coverage is and will be actually hard to map on OSM. It's up to operators and regulatory authorities to make hypothesizes to publish maps which will depict only one precise situation. Such maps will only be simulations with many

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Timothy Noname
I think locals will know when a village has no mobile phone coverage at all and I think it's suitable to be mapped as long as it's made sufficiently clear that it's not the sort of thing you map whilst just passing through. Incidentally, There are tags in OSM for measuring traffic on roads. On

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 167, Issue 3 emergency vertical stairways.

2023-08-07 Thread St Niklaas
Hi Anne, Have a look here, Not a link but an adress 'Nieuwe Kade 41 Arnhem' The shoreline is made out of corrigated metal sheets, with every now and then a stairway build in. Greetz ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

2023-08-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Aug 7, 2023, 02:58 by miketh...@gmail.com: > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:39 PM Evan Carroll <> m...@evancarroll.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> While I don't disagree, that's not an argument for OSM. OSM's job isn't to >> mitigate real world safety issues caused by technology. It's to map >>