Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-07-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
The lagoon "canals" are connected to both rivers and the city "canals" in the sense that the lagoon "canals" are often the continuation of rivers or city "canals". Two Examples: - Fiume (River) Dese (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27658040) and Canale Dese

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 1. Jul 2018, at 11:39, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > No, my question was not about the canali in Venice, which are essentially > waterways between islands that are inhabited. still there are some question for those “canals” in Venice: are they “artificial”, or are the

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-07-01 Thread Colin Smale
It sounds like you might be looking for "fairway"? https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/fairway-channel-same-difference.1910166/ http://www.yourdictionary.com/fairway //Colin On 2018-07-01 11:39, Volker Schmidt wrote: > No, the question was about the canali in the open lagoon, which are

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-07-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
No, the question was about the canali in the open lagoon, which are marked On 1 July 2018 at 09:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > the question here was about the Canali in Venice, usually no buoys there, > but man_made banks. > > No, my question was not about the canali in Venice, which are

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-07-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 1. Jul 2018, at 03:25, > wrote: > > While navigable channels are marked with buoys, which makes them closer to a > “highway” on land than a route. So I think it’s something that belongs in the > waterway namespace. the question here was about the Canali in Venice,

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-07-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 1 July 2018 at 13:59, wrote: > Maybe following the same scheme as for highways: > > > > waterway=navigable_channel (for way along the middle of the channel) > > area:waterway=navigable_channel (for area bound by buoys, with an > intersecting node at both ends between the area and the middle

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread osm.tagging
...@thorsten.engler.id.au Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2018 11:25 To: 'Tag discussion, strategy and related tools' Subject: Re: [Tagging] nautical channels I think it’s slightly different. For canoe routes, there is generally no infrastructure along the route. While navigable channels are marked with buoys

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread osm.tagging
: Graeme Fitzpatrick Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2018 11:10 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] nautical channels & as I've just mentioned on the Canoe Route thread, we're discussing two things that are pretty well the same! https://lists.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& as I've just mentioned on the Canoe Route thread, we're discussing two things that are pretty well the same! https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-June/037677.html https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-July/037729.html

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 30 June 2018 at 23:18, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Thinking about it, the Canale Grande should maybe not get waterway=canal > but waterway=river? > > Maybe natural=water? I was recently working on a canal estate in my area that had been previously tagged as natural=water. I retagged it

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 1 July 2018 at 01:53, wrote: > there don’t seem to be any matching tags yet, maybe something like > waterway=dredged_channel ? > On 1 July 2018 at 04:13, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > I think you're referring to the navigation channel, ie, the area between > the red and green markers? If

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 14:03 Paul Allen, wrote > >> >> The way to handle navigable channels across lagoons/lakes is covered at >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:route >> (you might have to invent route=boat or route=ship). >>

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread osm.tagging
Without being familiar with the topic at all, and seeing that there don’t seem to be any matching tags yet, maybe something like waterway=dredged_channel ? From: Volker Schmidt Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2018 01:42 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] nautical

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, 14:03 Paul Allen, wrote > > The way to handle navigable channels across lagoons/lakes is covered at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:route > (you might have to invent route=boat or route=ship). > I am aware the route relations for, e.g., ferry boats. What I want to

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Jun 2018, at 15:36, Yves wrote: > > Bah, if you want to tag the Canale Grande something else than waterway=canal, > you have an occupation for years ;) maybe river is not the right term, but it looks pretty obviously not artificial. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Yves
Bah, if you want to tag the Canale Grande something else than waterway=canal, you have an occupation for years ;) Yves Le 30 juin 2018 15:18:53 GMT+02:00, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > >sent from a phone > >> On 30. Jun 2018, at 14:41, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> >> The reason I am asking

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Jun 2018, at 14:41, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > The reason I am asking here, is that I detected by chance that navigation > channels in the Venice Lagoon [1] have been tagged as waterway=canal, which > to me seems not correct, or at least not covered by the wiki

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > It looks as if OpenSeaMap does map the seamarks that delimit the > navigation channel, but not the channel itself. > The reason I am asking here, is that I detected by chance that navigation > channels in the Venice Lagoon [1] have been

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-30 Thread Volker Schmidt
It looks as if OpenSeaMap does map the seamarks that delimit the navigation channel, but not the channel itself. The reason I am asking here, is that I detected by chance that navigation channels in the Venice Lagoon [1] have been tagged as waterway=canal, which to me seems not correct, or at

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Have you checked out OpenSeaMap.org and their related wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap? It might get you started. Clifford On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:19 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > > How to map a nautical channel [1] ? > > > [1]

[Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-28 Thread Volker Schmidt
How to map a nautical channel [1] ? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_(geography)#Nautical_channels ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging