Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Jan 3, 2019, 5:13 AM by th...@gmx.de: > Thoughts ? > Ideas how to fix that ? > Given that "fool" is strongly negative and derogatory any attempts to improve any situation should not have this word in the title of the thread. Insulting people is one of the worst possible arguments. .

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Richard
On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 06:23:15PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > As a side note, I find those mails with fancy "scissor" lines hard to read, > as the actual contribution is hidden somewhere in between. also breaking threads for every response is a bit too often. Richard

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 17:24, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > It would help me if you could use the traditional method of quoting with > '>' symbols, which is often > supported in mail clients with some syntax highlighting. > +1 -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Tom Pfeifer
As a side note, I find those mails with fancy "scissor" lines hard to read, as the actual contribution is hidden somewhere in between. It would help me if you could use the traditional method of quoting with '>' symbols, which is often supported in mail clients with some syntax highlighting.

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
8X- Sérgio V. svolk2 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 4 15:59:48 UTC 2019 As talking on tools, standards and principles, I think what is vital is to follow "OSM principles": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice *Don't remove tags that you

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Sérgio V .
As talking on tools, standards and principles, I think what is vital is to follow "OSM principles": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice *Don't remove tags that you don't understand* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map *Do not engage in large-scale "cleanups" without

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
8X- Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org Fri Jan 4 12:29:34 UTC 2019 Hi, I agree there seems to be a problem here that needs careful discussion & consideration, but: On 03.01.19 16:47, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > So which ACTION should

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I agree there seems to be a problem here that needs careful discussion & consideration, but: On 03.01.19 16:47, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > So which ACTION should we take now ? > At least those who introduced it should be in charge. The ACTION should definitely not be you mass-editing things

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Sérgio V .
Even if the tag keys were not propper, you've just removed many specific information about services that were in the values, such as batteries; brakes; electrical; inspection; muffler; oil_change. Without preserving them in any other usefull, or more propper tag if needed.

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Jan 2019, at 17:02, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > > Forgot to mention : > " it follows what `service:bicycle:*` does." > is not true. right, on the contrary service:vehicle doesn’t follow what service:bicycle does, it goes into competition with it Cheers, Martin

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Forgot to mention : " it follows what `service:bicycle:*` does." is not true. And if you introduce a new system, you should also explain the namespace structure. And not just create a hard to find "notice" which isn't linked to from the affected existing tags

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
8X-- Bryan Housel bhousel at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 04:39:03 UTC 2019We discussed it here on this list last year. You started the thread even, so you can’t pretend like you "just realized” it. I even asked people to update the wiki.

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-02 Thread Bryan Housel
We discussed it here on this list last year. You started the thread even, so you can’t pretend like you "just realized” it. I even asked people to update the wiki. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036095.html

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-02 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, just realized there's a "great" new feature in ID editor, lots of senseless service tags in this format : https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=service%3Avehicle%3A Seems to be over a year ago that someone decided to avoid conflicts between the "street" and the "car" services :