Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-27 Thread Martin Vonwald
Thanks for the update of the wiki. I added one of my photos. Best regards, Martin 2013/2/26 Alberto albertoferra...@fastwebnet.it: To Martin Vonwald. I've added field_shelter here [1]. Can you upload a picture for it? I haven't one and I don't want to upload a copyrighted picture. [1]

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-27 Thread Alberto
Thank you for your photo. I've also updated the animal page [1] and I reused your photo. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Animal Bye Alberto Thanks for the update of the wiki. I added one of my photos. Best regards, Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-26 Thread Alberto
To Martin Vonwald. I've added field_shelter here [1]. Can you upload a picture for it? I haven't one and I don't want to upload a copyrighted picture. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type Thank you Alberto - Viking81 ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-24 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! I guess too less people care about those. So simply use it and document how you use it in the wiki. regards, Martin 2013/2/23 Alberto albertoferra...@fastwebnet.it: Some time has passed but nothing has been changed on the Wiki. So about amenity=shelter + shelter_type=field_shelter + (if

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-23 Thread Alberto
Some time has passed but nothing has been changed on the Wiki. So about amenity=shelter + shelter_type=field_shelter + (if necessary) access=private, should I create a proposal page and vote it to change [1] and [2] or should I simply update these pages according to what we discussed here? [1]

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Philip Barnes
Are they not stables? Am not sure about amenity, that implies public use. I would suggest building = stable. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 06/02/2013 7:03 Martin Vonwald (imagic) wrote: Hi, Are there any arguments against using amenity=shelter + shelter_type=field_shelter for field

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Vonwald
No, they are definitively not stables. Differently to a stable the horse can go in and out as it pleases. They are usually placed in the field as protection from bad weather. An example of a field shelter can be seen here: [1] You definitively don't call them stables ;-) Martin [1]

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Sorry, but the picture is not a stable. It is, in the UK, a field shelter. The other problem with mapping some of these is they are often designed to be mobile to get round planning rules. The image is a mobile version. There have been previous discussions on this, so you might want to

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Vonwald
2013/2/6 Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com: The other problem with mapping some of these is they are often designed to be mobile to get round planning rules. Correct! I'm not sure I'd map this mobile type as it will probably/should move in the next year! I only think about field

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Philip Barnes
I would go for building=shelter rather than amenity. Amenity would imply it is available for anyone passing with a horse to take shelter. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 06/02/2013 9:00 Martin Vonwald wrote: No, they are definitively not stables. Differently to a stable the horse can go

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Vonwald
2013/2/6 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: I would go for building=shelter rather than amenity. Amenity would imply it is available for anyone passing with a horse to take shelter. Actually if amenity is not a good choice I would rather go for animal=shelter instead of building=shelter.

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: 2013/2/6 Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com: The other problem with mapping some of these is they are often designed to be mobile to get round planning rules. Correct! I'm not sure I'd map this mobile type as it

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/6 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: I would go for building=shelter rather than amenity. Amenity would imply it is available for anyone passing with a horse to take shelter. I think this would put more implication into amenity than what it practically has in OSM (see e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Vonwald
2013/2/6 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: So trying to remove ambiguity as much as possible you could tag this: building=field_shelter (or building=roof, layer=1) amenity=shelter shelter_type=field_shelter Except for the building, that was my first idea. In my opinion it would fit

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Simon
-1 for tagging it as amenity=shelter. We also don't do that with carports, garden sheds or dog houses. The object tagged amenity=shelter should imho be intended and usable for sheltering humans against bad weather and be freely accessible. -Martin 2013/2/6 Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/6 Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com: -1 for tagging it as amenity=shelter. We also don't do that with carports, garden sheds or dog houses. The object tagged amenity=shelter should imho be intended and usable for sheltering humans against bad weather and be freely accessible. Agree to

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Alberto
I'm against animal=shelter. As emerged in previous discussions, an animal is not a shelter. It exists amenity=animal_shelter [1] for large structures with a staff that takes care of animals and that eventually heals them. On taginfo already exists animal=shelter, and in many cases it has been used

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Vonwald
Makes sense. So we're back to amenity. Something like amenity=shelter + shelter_type=field_shelter + (if necessary) access=private should cover it. Martin 2013/2/6 Alberto albertoferra...@fastwebnet.it: I'm against animal=shelter. As emerged in previous discussions, an animal is not a

[Tagging] Amenity=shelter for field shelter?

2013-02-05 Thread Martin Vonwald (imagic)
Hi, Are there any arguments against using amenity=shelter + shelter_type=field_shelter for field shelters (see [1]) for horses? From the wiki: The amenity=shelter tag marks all sorts of small shelters to protect against bad weather conditions. Sounds good to me. Regards, Martin [1]