Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 6 May 2015 at 17:41, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/05/2015, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: If people choose not to (or are not bothered to) comment, that's an abstention. Indeed, it may reasonably be argued that of they choose not to comment on a

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-06 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 06/05/2015, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 May 2015 at 17:41, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/05/2015, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: If people choose not to (or are not bothered to) comment, that's an abstention. Indeed, it may

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 6 May 2015 at 17:41, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: It'd only be reasonable if those people were contacted. Discussions on [tagging] or [talk] or the wiki are *not* a good way to contact mappers for democratic opinion-gathering purposes. OSM doesn't have a policy that

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-06 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 05/05/2015, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: If people choose not to (or are not bothered to) comment, that's an abstention. Indeed, it may reasonably be argued that of they choose not to comment on a proposal to do something, then they are content with the proposal. It'd

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:41 AM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/05/2015, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Indeed, it may reasonably be argued that of they choose not to comment on a proposal to do something, then they are content with the proposal. It'd

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-06 Thread Tod Fitch
On May 6, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: The full expression of that might be the concept of a community of people who edit things like I edit. If I start editing campgrounds for example, perhaps the editor shows a chat window open to other people editing

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-05 Thread Marc Gemis
No, not everybody is against mechanical edits, not even a majority. pretty hard to tell when not all mappers were questioned or bothered to reply, not ? please do not try to draw such conclusions without hard numbers. it does not help your cause for mechanical edits. regards m.

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 5 May 2015 at 13:35, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: No, not everybody is against mechanical edits, not even a majority. pretty hard to tell when not all mappers were questioned or bothered to reply, not ? If people choose not to (or are not bothered to) comment, that's an

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/04/2015 01:07 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: The problem is that there is a very vocal minority against mechanical edits, and that minority is of the opinion that a majority cannot approve mechanical edits if there is a minority that disagrees. I think that if the majority of people

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 4 May 2015 at 05:23, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: The problem is that everybody is so strong against mechanical edits that it is pretty much impossible most of the time No, not everybody is against mechanical edits, not even a majority. The problem is that there is a very vocal

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-05-03 Thread Andreas Goss
When it comes to deprecated and obsolete tags I basically feel that if you can't get enough worldwide consent to re-tag The problem is that everybody is so strong against mechanical edits that it is pretty much impossible most of the time. And manual retags are often not worth the time. In

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-29 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 27 April 2015, Frederik Ramm wrote: I think that is wrong to colour-code the whole box red for deprecated feature, for the usual reason - it only takes a handful of people to deprecate something and this could easily lead to widely used tags being shown in red, leading people to

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-28 Thread Warin
On 29/04/2015 4:30 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: +1 that there's a problem here of the wiki pretending to be more than it it is. Xxzme's bold edits often exacerbate that. -- When it comes to deprecated and obsolete tags I basically feel that if you can't get enough worldwide consent to re-tag,

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-28 Thread Andrew Guertin
On 04/27/2015 01:26 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I'm finding myself in a little edit war with user Xxzme on the wiki (is there a club?) over my objection to the use of the colour red for tag description boxes that describe tags with the any of the following statuses: Can we also reject a

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
+1 that there's a problem here of the wiki pretending to be more than it it is. Xxzme's bold edits often exacerbate that. -- When it comes to deprecated and obsolete tags I basically feel that if you can't get enough worldwide consent to re-tag, the tags are not really obsolete or deprecated.

[Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I'm finding myself in a little edit war with user Xxzme on the wiki (is there a club?) over my objection to the use of the colour red for tag description boxes that describe tags with the any of the following statuses: discardable deprecated obsolete inactive abandoned rejected I think

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-27 Thread jgpacker
I agree with Andreas that the current colour of defacto is misleading. In fact, most current colours could be improved, and it would be a good idea to turn off colour-coding until a consensus has been reached (since it affects the whole goddamn wiki). And please, let's not colour-code the whole

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-27 Thread Andreas Goss
I don't think it's such a bad idea, what annoys me more is that defacto is beige, when most tags are bascially on the same level as apporved and should be green. I think marking those listed red is somewhat helpful. Maybe we should rather have a tag status like disputed, which can be used

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 27.04.2015 um 20:14 schrieb Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de: Maybe we should rather have a tag status like disputed, which can be used when there is no clear agreement to prevent abuse. we might end up with a lot of disputed tags if the bar is set too low, I'm a bit reluctant to a