Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-07-11 Thread Murry McEntire
An update on the proposal. Following a suggestion on the talk page, I have dropped sometimes from the proposal page and replaced it with conditional, a tag expressing more information and in greater use. A few other refinements have be made on the proposal page. After trial tagging with artisan

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-07-06 Thread fly
Am 05.07.2013 19:18, schrieb Murry McEntire: Hey Murry The proposal talk page has been rather inactive, a bit more discussion happening on the mailing list. I would like comment on the Additional tags section of the talk page where tags such as site_produced=yes/all/most/some/few/no,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-07-05 Thread fly
Am 05.07.2013 04:19, schrieb Stephen Hope: On 27 June 2013 18:15, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com mailto:bry...@obviously.com wrote: - Baked on site is an important distinction. For amusement: In the USA much packaged bread is sold with a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-07-05 Thread Murry McEntire
The proposal talk page has been rather inactive, a bit more discussion happening on the mailing list. I would like comment on the Additional tags section of the talk page where tags such as site_produced=yes/all/most/some/few/no, outlet=yes/commercial/local/no, artisan=yes/all/most/some/few/no are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-07-04 Thread Stephen Hope
On 27 June 2013 18:15, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: - Baked on site is an important distinction. For amusement: In the USA much packaged bread is sold with a label or sticker reading Baked fresh daily or just Baked fresh. As if... there were

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-27 Thread Jo
You mean: we do it this way in Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands, France, Italy, etc... I like your proposal. For the 'warm bakery shops, which also sell pastries and pies', which are the most common kind in Belgium, I'd use: name=Brood- en banketbakkerij Joske shop=bakery craft=bakery bread=yes

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: But how would I indicate that it's a place which resells the bread baked elsewhere that same morning? Some successful bakers start an 'outlet' shop which looks just the same, but the bread needs to be transported there. The

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-27 Thread Murry McEntire
Please continue the development of useful tags for continental Europe. Since the U.S. has no laws regarding the title a bakery can use, the tags may be used infrequently here. I believe the same is true of the other English-speaking countries. We have truth in advertising laws, but it's a step

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-27 Thread Murry McEntire
I understand resistance to regional use pages where the same tags are used differently based on location, but a necessary evil in some case, e.g. highway tagging. That avoiding the practice is the best case. However, is there any problem with regional property tags; that is, tags used in one

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Murry McEntire murry.mcent...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder how one would know the mix of baked on site versus imported for shops that display both the same way, i.e., no commercial bakery wrappers? Does use of commercial frozen dough or mixes matter? How would a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Having the same tags with different meanings in different locations will, of course, mean that renderers will have to check for rules that apply at the location being rendered, not just for rules that apply where the rendering machine is located. Murry McEntire murry.mcent...@gmail.com wrote:

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-26 Thread Murry McEntire
A proposal for improving the current misleading definitions and misuse of bakeries and confectioneries and adding tags for the types of goods sold.isnow ready for additional comment. This is a revised version of a proposal that was strongly voted down. The split of bakery shop types is gone, the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bakery,confectionery

2013-06-26 Thread Murry McEntire
I tried the split that made the most sense in the available common English terms, so I'm not sure how this could be handled. I would vote against any proposal for pastry_bakery or cake_bakery because I know they would not be used correctly by English speakers. Neither is inclusive of all non-bread