2014-10-15 12:57 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
hird mistake : It is not strictly reserved for notable people and
can be used to name all graves in a cemetery (which might be forbiden
in some countries). Privacy is never mentionned. To solve this, you
could enforce a link to wikipedia
2014-10-14 14:39 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
I think we should have notability, like Wikipedia. I have been using
buried:wikidata=*, and if someone can't get in Wikidata, then I think the
same should apply with OSM
I believe requiring notability is not necessary, at least not
On 2014-10-14 at 23:54:09 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
I'm wondering about this argument. How does maping information that
publicly available (names on tombstones) constitute a privacy breach ?
In many (most ?) countries, the birth and death registers are publicly
available in the local
Just a quick note:
2014-10-14 21:19 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
If I find personal data on my own family in OSM, I will
delete them immediatly without any permission.
I guess you wanted to write asking anyone for permission instead of
permission. You don't have to ask for permission,
2014-10-14 23:31 GMT+02:00 moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com:
I think that who is in which tomb is information that does
belong in OSM.
Finding the tomb you want in a cemetery is *hard* and I'd love to be
able to use OSM for it (probably via a specialized smartphone app). A
I was thinking the same until I though about all those war cemeteries of WO
I and WO II. You do not necessarily know where your relative is buried on
such a cemetery.
But this could be handled with a simple inscription tag, not need for a
relation.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Martin Vonwald
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 11:19 +0200, Martin Vonwald wrote:
2014-10-14 23:31 GMT+02:00 moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com:
I think that who is in which tomb is information that does
belong in OSM.
Finding the tomb you want in a cemetery is *hard* and I'd
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Martin Vonwald wrote:
2014-10-14 23:31 GMT+02:00 moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com:
I think that who is in which tomb is information that does
belong in OSM.
Finding the tomb you want in a cemetery is *hard* and I'd love
to be
able
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Pieren wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ilpo Järvinen
ilpo.jarvi...@helsinki.fi wrote:
Not that it would interest me personally to find some distant relative's
grave, but I've been on multiple occassions on with somebody who has been
looking for a grave of a
On 15/10/2014, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote:
2014-10-14 23:31 GMT+02:00 moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com:
Finding the tomb you want in a cemetery is *hard* and I'd love to be
able to use OSM for it (probably via a specialized smartphone app). A
particular tomb is like any POI,
On 15/10/2014, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ilpo Järvinen
ilpo.jarvi...@helsinki.fi wrote:
Not that it would interest me personally to find some distant relative's
grave, but I've been on multiple occassions on with somebody who has been
looking for a
We are going a bit offtopic, so I propose restart of relation description.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Relation:person_(rewrite)
Simple story: for graves only, for dead people only, no genealogy, no
relatives, just data from tombstone. Please edit and add comments.
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2014-10-13 23:24 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Czernik zbign...@openstreetmap.pl:
What if there are several people in the grave (with different names)?
Semicolons?
I think OSM shouldn't have names of people in the grave. What you are
saying is that, when OSM database is complete, we should have one
On Tue, 2014-10-14 at 13:51 +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote:
2014-10-13 23:24 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Czernik
zbign...@openstreetmap.pl:
What if there are several people in the grave (with different
names)?
Semicolons?
I think OSM shouldn't have names of people in
2014-10-14 13:55 GMT+02:00 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk:
If you don't put the names in OSM what do you propose?
Phil (trigpoint)
I think we should have notability, like Wikipedia. I have been using
buried:wikidata=*, and if someone can't get in Wikidata, then I think the
same should
Hi! I've noticed today there is an epic voting battle on the fields of
wiki. Hundreds of mappers came to state their disapproval of person
relation type. I wonder how many of them actually mapped one, or even
seen such relations. I found some of them in 2011, and posted an entry
in SHTOSM about
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Ilya Zverev i...@zverev.info wrote:
Hi! I've noticed today there is an epic voting battle on the fields of
wiki. Hundreds of mappers came to state their disapproval of person
relation type. I wonder how many of them actually mapped one, or even
seen such
On 13/10/2014, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
I think OSM isn't a place for this. Number of the grave should be enough,
and naming people in the grave (if they are not famous) looks like data for
other databases. What are other uses for this relation type? Home of a
person, workplace of
On Oct 14, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we should have notability, like Wikipedia.
Every time I mention importance or similar, everyone gets in a huff, as they
think that it will start an edit war or something. We trust mappers to do
everything, and make
On 14/10/2014, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Third mistake : It is not strictly reserved for notable people and
can be used to name all graves in a cemetery (which might be forbiden
in some countries). Privacy is never mentionned. To solve this, you
could enforce a link to wikipedia because
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Paweł Marynowski y...@openstreetmap.pl wrote:
The idea was to reflect, the best we can, situation with graves.
This is not clear in the proposal. It's much more than graves.
Birthday, family, description, etc. If you check examples, it is
reused to add every
2014-10-13 19:43 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Paweł Marynowski y...@openstreetmap.pl
wrote:
The idea was to reflect, the best we can, situation with graves.
This is not clear in the proposal. It's much more than graves.
Birthday, family,
I think OSM isn't a place for this. Number of the grave should be enough,
and naming people in the grave (if they are not famous) looks like data for
other databases. What are other uses for this relation type? Home of a
person, workplace of a person, current location of a person?
2014-10-13
W dniu 13.10.2014 23:04, Janko Mihelić pisze:
Number of the grave should be enough, and naming people in the grave
Number of grave? What do you mean? Number of grave is not visible on the
grave.
What if there are several people in the grave (with different names)?
Semicolons?
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