That doesn't seem very helpful for cycling users of the map or its routers.
If there is a blue round sign with a bicycle on it, I'd call that
designated, or a blue rectangular one. Or the pavement is in a pinkish
colour (here in Belgium). If I find a sandy track in the forest, where it's
obvious
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 10:03, Peter Neale via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> It is "bicycles=yes" and not "bicycles=designated" because, for a
> bridleway https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbridleway
> "Cyclists also have a right, unless the local authority makes
On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 4:58 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> 1) at least some people may be interested in places where cycling across
> steps is legal (not fan of MTBing etc but at least some people like it?
> not really sure here about whether it is
1) true, but wouldn't that by default be all steps unless otherwise
noted? I guess in this case it's assumed that the steps inherit their
implicit access from bridleway, so that might be different from the
general case...?
2) a noble cause, but again I would think that excluding bicycle=no from
On 28/04/2024 23:09, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
... how do horses handle the steps in the bridleway?
better than cyclists :)
Lots of historic bridleways in hilly areas in England are quite steep,
and often steps have been added for foot access to stop hikers sliding
down the slope. Sometimes
1) at least some people may be interested in places where cycling across
steps is legal (not fan of MTBing etc but at least some people like it?
not really sure here about whether it is actually something that people
look for )
2) people may be interested in places where cyclists nominally have
Thanks, all!
Graeme
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:06, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>
>
> Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2024 um 09:47 Uhr schrieb Jo :
>
>> I was wondering about that myself. They seem to be 'long' steps. So a
>> horse wouldn't have too much trouble with them.
>>
>
>
>
> there is this property
Horses are good at handling various obstacles.
If you can find a local 'horse trial' go along and look. Yes it is a
competition... But I don't map them as they are usually on private
property.
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Hi,
It is my understanding, from the Wiki at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle, that "bicycles=yes" means that
bicycles are permitted, but says nothing about the ease of riding one there.
It is "bicycles=yes" and not "bicycles=designated" because, for a bridleway
Hi,
They are, indeed, quite "long". I do not own a horse, nor have I seen one use
this section of bridleway, however, I guess that, with each step having only a
modest "rise" and a long "run", horses should have little difficulty walking up
or down them, just as we do.
key:flat_step *might*
Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2024 um 09:47 Uhr schrieb Jo :
> I was wondering about that myself. They seem to be 'long' steps. So a
> horse wouldn't have too much trouble with them.
>
there is this property which might be applying:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flat_steps
I was wondering about that myself. They seem to be 'long' steps. So a horse
wouldn't have too much trouble with them. Also parallel with it on the
other side of the small river there is a cycleway with no steps. That one
is on Mapillary.
Jo
Op ma 29 apr 2024 om 00:15 schreef Graeme Fitzpatrick :
Am So., 28. Apr. 2024 um 16:40 Uhr schrieb Andy Townsend :
> Assuming we're talking about something that's signed as a "Public
> Bridleway" in England and Wales*, then at the most basic level there are
> two tags to consider:
>
>- highway=steps
>- designation=public_bridleway
>
> The
Generally speaking, how do we reconcile these two?
bicycle=yes
highway=steps
What is a data consumer supposed to infer from this as opposed to just
highway=steps? As long as foot=designated, aren't cyclists always
allowed to get off the bike and push/carry it? And wouldn't they have to
when
Completely aside from mapping them in OSM, but how do horses handle the
steps in the bridleway?
Thanks
Graeme
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 05:41, Peter Neale via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> Hi DaveF,
>
> Acting on advice, I have already split the Bridleway and re-tagged 2
>
Hi DaveF,
Acting on advice, I have already split the Bridleway and re-tagged 2 sections
as:
bicycle=yesdesignation=public_bridlewayfoot=designatedhighway=stepshorse=designatedincline=down
(or up)lit=nosurface=paved
The steps can be seen on aerial imagery (a bit fuzzy on Bing, but
Could you provide the link to the OSM way please?
DaveF
On 28/04/2024 15:19, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote:
Advice, please.
A local Public Bridleway has a few (3, 4 or 5 from Aerial imagery)
steps going down before it passes under a road bridge, and a similar
number up again on the other
Hi Andy,
Many thanks indeed for the very speedy advice. I will do the basic tagging now
(from aerial imagery and memory) and visit again shortly to add more detail.
Regards,Peter
PeterPan99
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 15:40:53 BST, Andy Townsend
wrote:
On 28/04/2024 15:19, Peter
On 28/04/2024 15:19, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote:
A local Public Bridleway has a few (3, 4 or 5 from Aerial imagery)
steps going down before it passes under a road bridge, and a similar
number up again on the other side.
How can I best tag this? According to the wiki, "highway=steps" seems
Advice, please.
A local Public Bridleway has a few (3, 4 or 5 from Aerial imagery) steps going
down before it passes under a road bridge, and a similar number up again on the
other side.
How can I best tag this? According to the wiki, "highway=steps" seems to be
*an alternative to*, not *a
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