Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-16 18:05 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser : > As a native English speaker, I agree, "tomb" seems very different than an > ordinary grave with a tombstone. From looking at wikipedia, the difference > mainly seems to be that a tomb has a structure containing the remains, > whereas with a grave, the

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Brad Neuhauser
> I do not understand the "mainly for graves without historic value" part. >>> Does this exclude graves with historic value, or is it simply a hint that >>> there are far more graves for ordinary people than there are for famous >>> ones? >>> >> > > I don't know, but my guess would be it was in cou

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-16 17:09 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser : > I just noticed it when a user in my area tagged a couple graves this way. > I agree that all the grave: seems unnecessary. In particular, name, ref, > inscription, and memorial could probably all be used as-is. I put a note on > the Discussion page. Do

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Brad Neuhauser
responses inline On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-10-16 16:14 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser : > >> In addition to tomb=* and cemetery=grave, there's also this proposal: >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Grave >> >> The proposal states it is

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-16 16:14 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser : > In addition to tomb=* and cemetery=grave, there's also this proposal: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Grave > > The proposal states it is "mainly for [graves] without historic value" > Thank you for pointing to this. It seems

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-16 16:05 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > I think that it is a good idea, though it will make German translation out > of synch. > I think the German version (like any other localized version) should be a translation of the general version (English). The reason why it is now out of sync i

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Brad Neuhauser
In addition to tomb=* and cemetery=grave, there's also this proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Grave The proposal states it is "mainly for [graves] without historic value" And, it doesn't recommend using relation=person ;) On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:00 AM, sabas88 wro

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I think that it is a good idea, though it will make German translation out of synch. 2014-10-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-10-16 13:00 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > >> "and? You can add subtags to describe why a certain tomb is notable" - so >> what is the point of >> defini

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-16 13:00 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > "and? You can add subtags to describe why a certain tomb is notable" - so > what is the point of > defining it as "where are buried important or well-known persons of their > era"? oh, thank you for pulling the attention to this. The cited senten

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
"and? You can add subtags to describe why a certain tomb is notable" - so what is the point of defining it as "where are buried important or well-known persons of their era"? 2014-10-16 10:16 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-10-16 8:33 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > >> It seems that are

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-16 8:33 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > It seems that are serious problems with this tag, is there somebody > interested in > this topic who want to make a better proposal? > I am interested in this tag > > (1) This tag can not be used on the same object as > historic=archaeological_s

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread sabas88
2014-10-16 8:33 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > It seems that are serious problems with this tag, is there somebody > interested in > this topic who want to make a better proposal? > > (1) This tag can not be used on the same object as > historic=archaeological_site - > despite the fact that many

[Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It seems that are serious problems with this tag, is there somebody interested in this topic who want to make a better proposal? (1) This tag can not be used on the same object as historic=archaeological_site - despite the fact that many archaeological sites are excavated tombs. (2) There is no c