Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-04 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 8:50 PM Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > I poked into the existing usages of hazard=landslide, and they seem to > mostly be on hiking trails or at best track roads, rather than regular > roads. I don't think anyone would quibble with tagging a landslide hazard > on this [1] f

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I poked into the existing usages of hazard=landslide, and they seem to mostly be on hiking trails or at best track roads, rather than regular roads. I don't think anyone would quibble with tagging a landslide hazard on this [1] for example. [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Landslide_ar

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 01:05, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:09 PM Paul Allen wrote: > >> That's not to say we don't have landslides in the UK, but it appears >> we don't construct roads in places where they are anticipated to >> happen. >> > > The idea of "we don't build where the

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:54 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I am not exactly happy about "rock slide" as it seems weird to use it where > danger is primarily about individual rocks dropping, not about full scale > rock slide. > > Personally I would prefer "f

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Not all land slides are rock slides. Some are mostly silt or loamy soil, so are often “mudslides”, e.g. in the Northwest Pacific coast of Canada and the US: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Oso_mudslide So I would prefer “landslide” as a more general term. - Joseph Eisenberg On Thu, Dec 3, 2

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
You can also get rather philosophical about it as well :-) https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cW9iNszeKWU/WDuxft3rVBI/G70/HHEd7-W84k0tG_gakCs78RXXfoBfREfigCLcB/s1600/falling-rocks-dj-homewrecker.jpg Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openst

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:54 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I am not exactly happy about "rock slide" as it seems weird to use it where > danger is primarily about individual rocks dropping, not about full scale > rock slide. > > Personally I would prefer "f

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 18:16, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 18:06 +, Paul Allen wrote: > > > That's not to say we don't have landslides in the UK, but it appears > we don't construct roads in places where they are anticipated to > happen. > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A625

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Dec 3, 2020, 19:14 by p...@trigpoint.me.uk: > On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 18:06 +, Paul Allen wrote: > >> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 17:54, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <>> >> tagging@openstreetmap.org>> > wrote: >> >>> >>> I am not exactly happy about "rock slide" as it seems weird to use it where

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 18:06 +, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 17:54, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: > > > > I am not exactly happy about "rock slide" as it seems weird to use > > it where > > danger is primarily about individual rocks dropping, not about full > > scale rock

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 17:54, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I am not exactly happy about "rock slide" as it seems weird to use it where > danger is primarily about individual rocks dropping, not about full scale > rock slide. > In the UK we do not appear to ha

Re: [Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I am not exactly happy about "rock slide" as it seems weird to use it where danger is primarily about individual rocks dropping, not about full scale rock slide. Personally I would prefer "failing rocks" for warning used by a standard road sign. (difference is minor, but if we have luxury of sel

[Tagging] RFC Update - Hazard Proposal - rock/land fall/slide

2020-12-03 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
Hello, I've made a number of updates to the "hazard" proposal [1] based on the input received. Thanks to those that offered comment and feedback so far during this RFC. I request community help on resolving feedback on the proposed tag hazard=rock_slide and deprecation of three values of hazard: