Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2017-11-05 Thread Simon Poole
The aftermath of the (IMHO very unnecessary) change: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/4504#issuecomment-341980655 We now have - 62 chimney_sweeper - 36 sweep - 1 chimney_sweep and one confused chimney sweep Am 04.10.2014 um 20:39 schrieb John F. Eldredge: > Chimney sweeps still exist

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-04 Thread John F. Eldredge
Chimney sweeps still exist in the USA, although they offer a variety of services. The usual term for the industry is Heating/Ventilating/Air Conditioning Repair, often abbreviated to HVAC Repair. I had my chimney cleaned a few years ago. The technique used was a powerful, truck-mounted vacuum c

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-03 13:26 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElse : > If they're a German-specific thing then why not use the German word rather > than co-opt an English one that doesn't actually match the primary function > that these people perform? > they are all chimney sweeps. The list of detailed services, obligatio

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-03 13:15 GMT+02:00 Dan S : > Please, no! "Chimney sweeping" is not a phrase in British English, > whereas "chimney sweep" is. Plus, most of the craft=* tags use the > professional (person): > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/craft#values > you are right, the most used tags are refer

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread SomeoneElse
On 03/10/2014 12:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-10-03 13:17 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElse >: That doesn't much sound primarily like a chimney sweep at all, but some official function to do with gas etc. certification. exactly. This is what chimney sw

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-03 13:17 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElse : > That doesn't much sound primarily like a chimney sweep at all, but some > official function to do with gas etc. certification. > exactly. This is what chimney sweeps in Germany are, an official function to control gas, burners, boilers, stoves etc. and

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread SomeoneElse
On 03/10/2014 09:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I guess this depends on the region. In Germany they are sort of authority not only for cleaning but for chimney and combustion plant verification and certification of the installed instances. Typically you will have no choice, the whole country is

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Dan S
2014-10-03 12:06 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-10-03 12:58 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : >> >> I agree that craft=chimney_sweep is less ambiguous than =sweep >> alone, and with currently 24 instances in taginfo it would be a >> good time to change wiki and tags. > +1 Yes, fine, I would say.

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-03 12:58 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : > I agree that craft=chimney_sweep is less ambiguous than =sweep > alone, and with currently 24 instances in taginfo it would be a > good time to change wiki and tags. > +1 what about "chimney_sweeping" to indicate the trade/craft (?) rather than the prof

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Now as we have clarified that they still exist, we could come back to the original question what would be the best tag. I agree that craft=chimney_sweep is less ambiguous than =sweep alone, and with currently 24 instances in taginfo it would be a good time to change wiki and tags. Andreas Goss w

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-03 10:41 GMT+02:00 Philip Barnes : > Apart from my first reaction, do they still exist? The last time I saw a > chimney sweep was sometime before the moon landing. > > > The other and more important to OSM is, do they have a physical > presence? It is the type of trade that works from a

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Volker Schmidt
I don't think they are extinct. There are countries that require by regulation regular inspections of chimneys. For example, they check that the hot exhaust gases from your methane-fired central heating have non corroded the lining of your chimney, which would be a fire hazard. In Germany here is

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Marc Gemis
According to http://www.goudengids.be/schoorsteenvegers/ there are still 396 of them in Belgium. I think it's even required to let the chimney of your house cleaned for insurance purposes. Many people still use wood or pellets to (partially) heat their house. Several crafts men (carpenters, roof r

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 09:11 +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: > Tying to clean up the Wiki a bit and found craft=sweep. I think it would > be better to tag it craft=chimney_sweep as this makes it clearer and a > lot easier to understand for non-native speakers. > > What do you think? I would then also

[Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 Thread Andreas Goss
Tying to clean up the Wiki a bit and found craft=sweep. I think it would be better to tag it craft=chimney_sweep as this makes it clearer and a lot easier to understand for non-native speakers. What do you think? I would then also like to retagg the few that are already in use if others agree