Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-07 Thread Gmail
Fernando, if you really were to implement a style, chances are you'd prefer filter the data once for schools of the primary educational system, without bothering for explicitely filtering out all possible additional tags for any other kind of 'schools'. Yves Fernando Trebien

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 07/set/2013 um 09:32 schrieb Gmail yve...@gmail.com: Fernando, if you really were to implement a style, chances are you'd prefer filter the data once for schools of the primary educational system, without bothering for explicitely filtering out all possible additional tags for any

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/5 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com Well, using amenity=school would have the advantage of immediate support by current renderers and applications and no need for new tags. -1, you won't have immediate support for the feature, you just will see _something_ on the map, you

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread fly
On 06.09.2013 09:58, Janko Mihelić wrote: I think Martin is right in asking to invent new tags for different types of schools. Makes it easier for the new mapper. Also, we already have amenity=driving_school. +1 amenity=language_school -1 Can't we use a different key like education or

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/6 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com -1 Can't we use a different key like education or training and then use subkeys ? I do not like to find a new amenity=* for each kind of educational service or training. What would be the benefit? If I'm looking for a language school I am not

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread fly
On 06.09.2013 13:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/9/6 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com -1 Can't we use a different key like education or training and then use subkeys ? I do not like to find a new amenity=* for each kind of

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 06/set/2013 um 14:07 schrieb fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: * it would be possible to have a default icon for education which is not possible with the mix under amenity if you'd Mix all kind of stuff under education it would be similar... Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Two big counter-examples to your argument are restaurants and places of worship: If I'm looking for a [Chinese restaurant or Catholic church] I am not interested in finding also a [pizza restaurant or Synagogue] That said, what you're proposing (separate amenity tags for different types of other

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I think you misunderstood my transition to a second point (maybe That said was not a clear enough pivot). The list was showing what is in the wild right now, and that things like amenity=ski_school/dance_school/language_school/driving_school/riding_school/etc are in use now, at least in a limited

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread fly
On 06.09.2013 15:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 06/set/2013 um 14:07 schrieb fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: * it would be possible to have a default icon for education which is not possible with the mix under amenity if you'd Mix all kind of stuff under education it would be

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/6 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Two big counter-examples to your argument are restaurants and places of worship: If I'm looking for a [Chinese restaurant or Catholic church] I am not interested in finding also a [pizza restaurant or Synagogue] yes, but still it would be a

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-06 Thread Fernando Trebien
I agree with Martin. If I were implementing a map renderer, it would be far easier to treat categorized things (such as school and restaurant) using the same visual style and same icon, instead of specifying each possible variation separately (I would need to know all possible values in that

[Tagging] School and training

2013-09-05 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hello everyone, Here in Brazil we have started discussing special cases for tagging (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Refer%C3%AAncia#Casos_espec.C3.ADficos). There are two common cases that don't seem to be covered by OSM yet: language schools and cram schools. I found

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/5 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com Hello everyone, Here in Brazil we have started discussing special cases for tagging ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Refer%C3%AAncia#Casos_espec.C3.ADficos ). There are two common cases that don't seem to be

Re: [Tagging] School and training

2013-09-05 Thread Fernando Trebien
Well, using amenity=school would have the advantage of immediate support by current renderers and applications and no need for new tags. While being tagging for the application, it doesn't sounds so incorrect to me (but I must admit it may be due to the language barrier). Would it be wrong to