Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-27 Thread José G Moya Y .
Kevin Kenny wrote: > I'm ignorant. The public (and for that matter, club) pools near me are all > at multisport facilities and multi-use parks. (Typical configuration: fenced-off > swimming facility; administrative building; bathhouse; playing fields for > football,

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 18:38:15 +0200 Selfish Seahorse wrote: > (2) indoor swimming pools seem not to be tagged Because they do not appear on imagery, so fewer people are in a position to map them... But nothing keeps anyone from tagging them.

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-26 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Selfish Seahorse wrote: > However, I'd be interested in your opinion on leisure=swimming_facility. > I'm ignorant. The public (and for that matter, club) pools near me are all at multisport facilities and multi-use parks. (Typical

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-26 Thread Selfish Seahorse
BTW, please have a look at how dictionaries define 'sports centre': * a building where the public can go to play many different kinds of sports, swim, etc. (Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary) * a building where you can play different sports (Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary & Thesaurus)

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-26 Thread Selfish Seahorse
On 26 September 2017 at 16:52, Kevin Kenny wrote: > There's ample reason for mapping private swimming pools, so I > take issue with "makes no sense at all". How else are you going to > indicate to fire fighters that there is a swimming pool on the premises > (both as

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-26 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Even if all private swimming pool facilities were tagged with access=private, leisure=swimming_pool isn't suitable as POI, because (1) pools of thermal baths and water parks are also tagged as swimming_pool, (2) indoor swimming pools seem not to be tagged, and (3) there is usually more than one

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-26 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 3:25 AM, Selfish Seahorse wrote: > At present, with > leisure=swimming_pool used for the water area only and many private > pools tagged with it (what I think makes no sense at all), the results > are completely useless. And because the public

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Gemis
you can always add access=private to private swimming pools. m. On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Selfish Seahorse wrote: > Hi > > Yes, that's a pity. My main interest in introducing a new tag was to > make it possible to find nearby public swimming pool facilities

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-26 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hi Yes, that's a pity. My main interest in introducing a new tag was to make it possible to find nearby public swimming pool facilities with an OSM based app like Maps.me or skobbler.com. At present, with leisure=swimming_pool used for the water area only and many private pools tagged with it

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-25 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi. It seems this conversation ended without an approval. That's a pity. I really can't understand the world divided in "sport swimming facilities" and "water parks". In Spain, we understand a "sport swimming facility" like that containing swimming pools that open 365 days, and where you can't

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-18 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi! A park with s Pool with lanes => sports_centre. A park with trampoline, ramps, pools=> water_park A park with umbrellas and a pool where you have to pay a fee to enter the park itself (so you have to map the park, its access and its access conditions)=> park??? It's ridiculous! That's why I

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-18 Thread Warin
On 18-Sep-17 07:33 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:56:59 +0200 Selfish Seahorse wrote: On 18 September 2017 at 09:42, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: "sport=swimming for a centre containing one or more swimming pools that is mainly

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:56:59 +0200 Selfish Seahorse wrote: > > On 18 September 2017 at 09:42, Jean-Marc Liotier > wrote: > > "sport=swimming for a centre containing one or more swimming pools > > that is mainly focussed on swimming as a sport,

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:46:24 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > > On 18.09.2017 09:42, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > Whole facility: > > leisure=sports_center > > leisure=sports_centre (British English spelling) Thanks. And I don't even have an autocorrect to blame... On the

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 18.09.2017 09:42, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > Whole facility: > leisure=sports_center leisure=sports_centre (British English spelling) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:20:44 +0200 Selfish Seahorse wrote: > > > The current situation of how public outdoor and indoor swimming pool > [..] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dsports_centre#Combinations "sport=swimming for a centre containing one or

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Marc Gemis
I'm pretty sure this was discussed in the past on this mailing list. Is there a descend way to search in the tagging archive, it would interesting to see what was discussed then. m. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Selfish Seahorse wrote: > Hi everyone > > The

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 17.09.2017 20:08, marc marc wrote: Le 17. 09. 17 à 18:20, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : a sub-tag swimming_facility=outdoor/indoor existing indoor=yes/no is not enough ? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/indoor#values Both are in use: * indoor=yes/no * outdoor=yes/no They are in use

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread marc marc
Le 17. 09. 17 à 18:20, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : > a sub-tag swimming_facility=outdoor/indoor existing indoor=yes/no is not enough ? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/indoor#values ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread José G Moya Y .
Yes, please!! It's inconsistent to have a tag to mark the outdoor area surrounding a sports swimming pool or a water park and no tag to mark the outdoor area around a not-for-sports, not-theme-park swimming pool. I said that in the swimming pool discusion. If you have a tag for the facility, you

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-17 18:20 GMT+02:00 Selfish Seahorse : > > The lack of a dedicated tag and the different tagging prevents > searching for nearby swimming pool facilities. Furthermore, it is not > possible to distinguish between indoor and outdoor swimming pool > facilities. >

[Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hi everyone The current situation of how public outdoor and indoor swimming pool facilities are tagged is not ideal. There is no dedicated tag, so they are all tagged differently: e.g. as water parks, sports centres, swimming pools, recreation grounds or parks. However, these tags all define

[Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hi everyone The current situation of how public outdoor and indoor swimming pool facilities are tagged is not ideal. There is no dedicated tag, so they are all tagged differently: e.g. as water parks, sports centres, swimming pools, recreation grounds or parks. However, these tags all define