Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Andy On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 20:22, Andy Townsend wrote: > There are ways that are genuinely highway=raceway: > Just looking at it, would I be right in saying that that stretch, & the straight / pits over to the East are pure racetrack & nothing else, but the rest of the circuit is public

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 17:43, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is route marked on the ground > Stays partially marked - the "boxes" for the starting grid & the start / finish line stay year round, but are redone for the race itself. The rest of the race lane markings get painted over after the race

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/03/2019 04:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Here's the one I was talking about https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9325885#map=16/-27.9868/153.4270 Only operates as a race track for 4 days a year - 1 practice, 1 qualifying & 2 race days. The rest of the year it's normal public roads.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 8, 2019, 1:47 AM by graemefi...@gmail.com: > I've seen the same tracks marked for once-a-year car races on otherwise > normal streets - they should also be deleted? > Is route marked on the ground or at least exactly the same every year? If yes, then I am not sure. Currently unmarked on the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Warin
On 08/03/19 15:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Here's the one I was talking about https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9325885#map=16/-27.9868/153.4270 Only operates as a race track for 4 days a year - 1 practice, 1 qualifying & 2 race days. The rest of the year it's normal public roads.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Here's the one I was talking about https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9325885#map=16/-27.9868/153.4270 Only operates as a race track for 4 days a year - 1 practice, 1 qualifying & 2 race days. The rest of the year it's normal public roads. (& I even get a mention for editing part of it, but

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Warin
On 08/03/19 11:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I've seen the same tracks marked for once-a-year car races on otherwise normal streets - they should also be deleted? I would first transfer them to something else. If they have historic significance then OHM. The bicycle routes are used by

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I've seen the same tracks marked for once-a-year car races on otherwise normal streets - they should also be deleted? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
> > On 07/03/19 18:55, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > They could go into OHM on a year by year basis? > There is an old proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/historic_event but it has not been approved. I think this type of event-related track should go into any of the many

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Is this course signed in terrain? Is it the same every year? Given "traject of the 2014 edition" I suspect to second is no, but such data can avoid deletion if it is marked on a ground. Otherwise it should be deleted quickly, mostly because it may encourage people to waste time adding more.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Peter Elderson
If a route is indicated/waymarked on the road not just for an event but as a permanent route, adding it to OSM is ok. If it's not waymarked on the road, or just for the event, it's non-OSM material. There are numerous sites and apps for planning/publishing/recording/archiving such tracks on all

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Warin
On 07/03/19 18:55, Richard Fairhurst wrote: They don’t belong in OSM for the reasons you state, and would be better hosted independently on umap or similar. They could go into OHM on a year by year basis? Each year can have a different route...

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, 08:57 Richard Fairhurst, wrote: > They don’t belong in OSM for the reasons you state, > I strongly second this statement. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
They don’t belong in OSM for the reasons you state, and would be better hosted independently on umap or similar. But in any case, they absolutely should not be tagged route=bicycle, as routers and renderers use this as a signifier that “this road/path is particularly suitable for cycling”.

[Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

2019-03-06 Thread s8evq
After a discussion with another user, I saw some people put a lot of effort in adding and maintaining the course of professional bicycle races. For example the world famous Paris-Roubaix (traject of the 2014 edition: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4853475) I also found for example local