Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Johnparis
landuse=forestry seems a logical choice. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 17:38 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 6. Jun 2018 17:10 by kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com: > > So we have available to us: > > landcover=trees - seldom used, but available and unambiguous > natural=wood - controversial, what qualifies a

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6. Jun 2018 17:10 by kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com : > So we have available to us: > > landcover=trees - seldom used, but available and unambiguous > natural=wood - controversial, what qualifies a woodland as being 'natural?' > There's next to no land anywhe

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > landuse=forest is used for tree-covered areas, > > not for a forestry landuse. > Which leaves us with no reasonable way to express the latter. That's why this discussion keeps coming up - at least around here, there are significant area

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-06-06 15:59 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen : > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> there is unanimous (?) consensus that landuse is about the usage of land >> (“For describing the primary use of areas of land.”) >> how can “grass” fit into a sy

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6. Jun 2018 15:15 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > > there is unanimous (?) consensus that landuse is about the usage of land (“> > For describing the primary use of areas of land.”) landuse=forest is used for tree-covered areas, not for a forestry landuse. ___

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > there is unanimous (?) consensus that landuse is about the usage of land (“For > describing the primary use of areas of land.”) > > how can “grass” fit into a system like this? > Because the grass is there intentionally and is mainta

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Peter Elderson
You have implemented rendering of landcover alongside landuse? Is it a major technical thing? It's not a question of replacing, I think, but rendering both? Landcover would basically always be over another landuse. At the moment, landuse-over-landuse is rendered according to some logic? 2018-0

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Jun 2018, at 14:37, Andy Townsend wrote: > > your road different). The wiki page > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dgrass says "It is typical > that landuse=grass is misused and should be changed to landcover=grass ". > I'd argue that that's wron

[Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag (was: Re: British term for municipal greenery?)

2018-06-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/06/2018 11:48, Peter Elderson wrote: This issue has a long history... seems to me tagging awaits rendering, and rendering awaits tagging. In such cases, you need a commitment from both sides, with enough support to fuel trust. Then things can get rolling. Speaking as someone who both ad