Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-08-10 Thread Vincent Pottier
On 10/08/2010 03:13, Liz wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Wish there was an agriculture=* tag. Life could be simple: well living in an agricultural area I'd start with agriculture= agriculture=* is not very acurate Does it describe the use of the soil, the

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-08-09 Thread Liz
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:20:33 +0100, Richard Mann wrote: Most of these call themselves vineyards http://www.englishwineproducers.com/scvineyard.htm Do they actually have a vineyard on site? At least locally (US:OR), a winery can't call itself a

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-08-09 Thread Liz
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Wish there was an agriculture=* tag. Life could be simple: well living in an agricultural area I'd start with agriculture= rice wheat hops barley canola (modified rape seed CAnadaOiLa) grapes (subtypes table/wine or variety) citrus (subtypes needed)

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-08-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 11:30, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: not sure it's wise to try and tag for crop types. many farms do rotate their crops, after all. not the same from year to year, and all that. In the area I grew up in they rotated twice a year in some cases...

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:32 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 August 2010 11:30, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: not sure it's wise to try and tag for crop types. many farms do rotate their crops, after all. not the same from year to year, and all that. In

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:20:33 +0100, Richard Mann wrote: Most of these call themselves vineyards http://www.englishwineproducers.com/scvineyard.htm Do they actually have a vineyard on site? At least locally (US:OR), a winery can't call itself a vineyard unless they're growing their grapes

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-30 Thread Steve Bennett
My two cents: winery is a better term than vineyard because, in some contexts at least, the two have distinct meanings. cellar door is a bad term because it will be taken literally by many people and lead to confusion. Given that there are wineries that don't sell direct to the public, and there

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-30 Thread Stephen Hope
On 30 July 2010 17:42, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Given that there are wineries that don't sell direct to the public, and there are wine shops not attached to wineries, and that a cellar door is really no more than a wine shop within a winery, I would suggest: Some cellar

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-29 Thread Steve Doerr
Perhaps we need a factory_outlet tag? This is just a particular case of a factory outlet. If the factory is tagged as a winery and the shop as a factory outlet, the picture is complete. -- Steve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/29/10 6:45 PM, Steve Doerr wrote: Perhaps we need a factory_outlet tag? This is just a particular case of a factory outlet. If the factory is tagged as a winery and the shop as a factory outlet, the picture is complete. in the US, factory outlet is a term that has become much abused

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Mann
Most vineyards have something similar, though not always so heavily marketed, so I think you need to find a term that's more international. Perhaps tourism=vineyard_shop or just shop=vineyard. Richard On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:15 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 July 2010

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 July 2010 20:02, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: Most vineyards have something similar, though not always so heavily marketed, so I think you need to find a term that's more international. Perhaps tourism=vineyard_shop or just shop=vineyard. You some times can

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Mann
winery: no such word in en_gb, we just use vineyard for the whole operation (though of course we don't do these things on the same scale as Australia). Unless you're going to distinguish between shop=winery and shop=vineyard, I'd use the more generic term in the tagging system. Richard

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 July 2010 20:30, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: winery: no such word in en_gb, we just use vineyard for the whole operation (though of course we don't do these things on the same scale as Australia). Unless you're going to distinguish between shop=winery and

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread Liz
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Richard Mann wrote: winery: no such word in en_gb, we just use vineyard for the whole operation (though of course we don't do these things on the same scale as Australia). Unless you're going to distinguish between shop=winery and shop=vineyard, I'd use the more generic

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread Craig Wallace
On 26/07/2010 11:30, Richard Mann wrote: winery: no such word in en_gb, we just use vineyard for the whole operation (though of course we don't do these things on the same scale as Australia). Unless you're going to distinguish between shop=winery and shop=vineyard, I'd use the more generic term

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Mann
Most of these call themselves vineyards http://www.englishwineproducers.com/scvineyard.htm On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: can you provide a definition of this use of the word? ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/26/10 7:18 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 26/07/2010 11:17, Liz wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Richard Mann wrote: Most vineyards have something similar, though not always so heavily marketed, so I think you need to find a term that's more international. Perhaps tourism=vineyard_shop or just

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-25 Thread John Smith
Since there hasn't been any dispute over this, I wrote up a wiki page for this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism=cellar_door ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
needs to be more specific, or else it is likely to be applied to any cellar entrance. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] What do others call this? From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date :Sun Jul 25 18:39:35 America/Chicago 2010 Since there hasn't been any dispute over

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-25 Thread Simon Biber
John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: I think that it is likely to lead to a great deal of confusion, since the general meaning of cellar door is any door leading into a building's cellar. This does not necessarily mean that the building is a winery; for example, most houses in

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-25 Thread John Smith
On 26 July 2010 10:44, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: I think that it is likely to lead to a great deal of confusion, since the general meaning of cellar door is any door leading into a building's cellar. This does not necessarily mean that the building is a winery; for