Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-14 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
But Deposit Refund Scheme or (sorry, not deposit return scheme) is how it’s most commonly known. container_return isn’t clear whether there is a deposit, or if it’s even part of a reuse/recycling scheme. > On 14 Jan 2020, at 13:50, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > >> deposit_return_scheme=yes > >

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> deposit_return_scheme=yes This is trying to include too many things under one tag. - Joseph Eisenberg On 1/14/20, Jake Edmonds via Tagging wrote: > I believe they are schemes where other items also have a deposit, such as > newspapers. So rather then container_return, how about: > >

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-14 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
I believe they are schemes where other items also have a deposit, such as newspapers. So rather then container_return, how about: deposit_return_scheme=yes deposit_return_scheme:type=counter/machine These tags can be added to shops, breweries, recycling centres, etc. Reverse vending machines

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-14 Thread Jyri-Petteri Paloposki
On 14.1.2020 13.39, Sebastian Martin Dicke wrote: But in some shops there are checkouts, where you can give yogurt jars or some kinds of bottles and get the deposit refund. I know a shop, where yogurt jars and some kinds bottles are taken at a checkout, but other bottles at a reverse vending

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-14 Thread Sebastian Martin Dicke
But in some shops there are checkouts, where you can give yogurt jars or some kinds of bottles and get the deposit refund. I know a shop, where yogurt jars and some kinds bottles are taken at a checkout, but other bottles at a reverse vending machine. Its usually one checkout in that shop, in the

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-13 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-01-13 09:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Mo., 13. Jan. 2020 um 09:25 Uhr schrieb Jake Edmonds via Tagging > : > >> Do you have a suggestion Martin? > > maybe a generic > > amenity=bottle_return_machine ? Why limit it to bottles? We don't do that with vending machines; Why do it

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 13. Jan. 2020 um 09:25 Uhr schrieb Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Do you have a suggestion Martin? maybe a generic amenity=bottle_return_machine ? could be used for all kind of machines that take bottles, and amended with tags about the kind of bottles. It

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-13 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
Do you have a suggestion Martin? Maybe something like deposit_refund_system=yes could be applied to amenity=recycling, amenity=shop and amenity=vending_machine + vending=reverse_vending. deposit_refund_system:brands=* can specify the brands > On 13 Jan 2020, at 07:54, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Jan 2020, at 06:51, Marc Gemis wrote: > > To come back to tagging: so people seem to have a problem with > amenity=recycle in case of reuse, but do not have a problem with > amenity=vending_machine for such a machine (that does not sell anything). Or > am I

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Marc Gemis
I was thinking of speciality beers (which do not come in crates), but especially of wine bottles. AFAIK, there is little to no difference in the bottle, but it might depend on who bottled the wine. If the wine is bottled by the supermarket itself, you can return the bottle, otherwise not. At least

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jan 2020, at 18:15, Marc Gemis wrote: > > I don't understand this "typology of container that is accepted". Some > glass bottles I have into put a container, others I can return to a > shop and get some money back. There is no difference in container, the > only

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
Here is the list of brands accepted at three stores near by. I also checked two others, one had a picture of various shapes and colours (with no labels) of bottles and the other lists ‘beer 0,33l, beer 0,5l) but both did have a list of which brands of plastic crates are accepted Fresh Fresh 2

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Is the different between recycling and reusing important for the average > > consumer who a) wants to claim their deposit and b) doesn’t want to put > > the item into landfill? > > > first of all it is indicating the (rough) typology of container that is > accepted, secondly it would seem

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. Jan 2020, at 08:07, Jake Edmonds via Tagging > wrote: > > Is the different between recycling and reusing important for the average > consumer who a) wants to claim their deposit and b) doesn’t want to put the > item into landfill? first of all it is

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-10 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
Is the different between recycling and reusing important for the average consumer who a) wants to claim their deposit and b) doesn’t want to put the item into landfill? Even schemes designed to reused containers have a limit on the number of reuses, the container I return might be on it’s

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-05 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
Regardless of whether the main tag should be changed or not, on second thought, I think the following tags should be used: brand= To indicate how the service is branded, for example, a recycling/bottle return company or the name of the super market where the machine is located

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-05 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-01-05 21:02, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > >> On 5. Jan 2020, at 16:46, Colin Smale wrote: > > The term vending machine is misrepresenting these machines and should not be > used. > > They are frequently called "reverse vending" machines - instead of the >

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Jan 2020, at 16:46, Colin Smale wrote: > >> The term vending machine is misrepresenting these machines and should not be >> used. > > > They are frequently called "reverse vending" machines - instead of the > customer trading money for goods, they trade goods for

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-05 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-01-05 16:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > I would characterize them completely differently, nothing is sold, and you > don't get a discount coupon but rather a receipt to get back your deposit. > The term vending machine is misrepresenting these machines and

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Jan 2020, at 13:39, Jake Edmonds via Tagging > wrote: > > Some bottle return vending machines are placed inside supermarket stores and > give the user a discount coupon to redeem in-store when paying for their > shopping. The supermarket chain may not own, empty

[Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-05 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
Some bottle return vending machines are placed inside supermarket stores and give the user a discount coupon to redeem in-store when paying for their shopping. The supermarket chain may not own, empty or maintain the machine but it appears operator=* is already being used for this case. Should