Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-10 Thread Leon Karcher
egards Leon/Karthoo Gesendet von Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Hauke Stieler Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 11:28:26 AM To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries Sorry, forgot the link [0] https://www.germany.

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-10 Thread Hauke Stieler
Sorry, forgot the link [0] https://www.germany.travel/en/experience-enjoy/german-bread-and-baked-goods.html On 10.05.24 11:10, Hauke Stieler wrote: Hi, I'm with some other folks here: Tagging specific types of bread seems not a good idea. At least in Germany there are a lot of different

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-10 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, I'm with some other folks here: Tagging specific types of bread seems not a good idea. At least in Germany there are a lot of different types [0], bakeries change their offers every few months and many larger bakeries have like ten or twenty types of bread. Also, some bakeries give names

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-04 Thread Iman via Tagging
On Fri, 3 May 2024 13:36:55 +0200 Zoon van Michiel wrote: > What is the benefit of putting the breads a bakery sells into OSM? > I think all categories of bread that might affect someone's choice to go to a > bakery are already present in OSM. > For example: pastry , diet:gluten_free ,

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-04 Thread Iman via Tagging
On Fri, 3 May 2024 09:39:59 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I agree for specific types of bread, but maybe we can have "classes" of > breads, if that makes sense. Personally, when going into a bakery I am > interested in the quality of the bread more than the exact type. Typically > I would

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-04 Thread Iman via Tagging
On Fri, 3 May 2024 09:27:39 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > In general, I would advise against trying to record which products are > offered in any kind of shop, as this is likely to change often and lead > to bitrot. > > Only map such detail if you are very likely to spot any change in the >

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-04 Thread OSM
Hi, Am 03.05.2024 um 09:27 schrieb Frederik Ramm: In general, I would advise against trying to record which products are offered in any kind of shop, as this is likely to change often and lead to bitrot. Only map such detail if you are very likely to spot any change in the future, and will be

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 3. Mai 2024 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Zoon van Michiel < spaanse@gmail.com>: > What is the benefit of putting the breads a bakery sells into OSM? > Otherwise, bread is just bread. I will choose the variety I like best when > I get there. That even bakers might not advertise which

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread Zoon van Michiel
That even bakers might not advertise which sorts of bread they are selling could be another clue that it is not important. If the website is in a foreign language, you can machine translate it. If the bakery is too small to have a website, it is not special and you can expect the regular

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread bkil
Unless its website is in a language you don't speak, which contains a bunch of material except it doesn't list the exact kinds of items sold there or if it's a small shop that doesn't have any website at all. On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 1:40 PM Zoon van Michiel wrote: > > What is the benefit of

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread Zoon van Michiel
What is the benefit of putting the breads a bakery sells into OSM? I think all categories of bread that might affect someone's choice to go to a bakery are already present in OSM. For example: pastry , diet:gluten_free , diet:lactose_free. Otherwise, bread is just bread. I will choose the variety

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread bkil
https://wiki.osm.org/Key:organic or sourdough:organic=yes On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 9:43 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I agree for specific types of bread, but maybe we can have "classes" of > breads, if that makes sense. Personally, when going into a bakery I am > interested in the quality

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread bkil
When that question occurs to you that you need to work around the 255 character limitation by using an unbounded number of alternative keys, each coming from an unbounded domain, then it's an indicator that you are overdoing it. I think it is kind of "okay" to list some key generic types as long

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I agree for specific types of bread, but maybe we can have "classes" of breads, if that makes sense. Personally, when going into a bakery I am interested in the quality of the bread more than the exact type. Typically I would ask "do you have bread made of natural sourdough" and the answers will

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread Warin
On 3/5/24 16:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 21:21, bkil +a...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, that would be even better. sells:bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z But if you're selling ="white variety-a", "wholemeal variety-a", "multi-grain variety-a",

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, In general, I would advise against trying to record which products are offered in any kind of shop, as this is likely to change often and lead to bitrot. Only map such detail if you are very likely to spot any change in the future, and will be able to record it. (E.g. it is the bakery

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 21:21, bkil wrote: > Yes, that would be even better. > sells:bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z > But if you're selling ="white variety-a", "wholemeal variety-a", "multi-grain variety-a", "gluten-free variety-a", then the same for varieties b, c & so on, I can see a

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-02 Thread bkil
Yes, that would be even better. sells:bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 12:39 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > what about > sells:bread=X;Y;Z (xyz being bread types) > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org >

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
what about sells:bread=X;Y;Z (xyz being bread types) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-02 Thread bkil
It is equivalent to stating shop=bakery bread=wholemeal:x;y;wholemeal:z Or the more conventional: bread=wholemeal_x;y;wholemeal_z On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 10:19 AM iriman--- via Tagging wrote: > > Hi > I've tagged a few bakeries for the bread they sell. > At first I used semicolon to separate

[Tagging] breads of bakeries

2024-05-02 Thread iriman--- via Tagging
Hi I've tagged a few bakeries for the bread they sell. At first I used semicolon to separate values: shop=bakery bread=x;y;z Since I'm focused on adding/updating bakeries that are using wholemeal flour in their products, I added a general tag bread:wholemeal=yes. But this tag was too general