On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote:
1) Force everyone to draw a loop around the island (too tedious)
Or just silently fix it. That's what I do. JOSM has great drawing
tools for making
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dturning_circle#Central_island
The question is whether a normal-sized turning circle can be tagged as
such if there's a small landscaped island in the middle. Here's a local
example:
On 13/03/2012 11:29, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dturning_circle#Central_island
The question is whether a normal-sized turning circle can be tagged as
such if there's a small landscaped island in the middle. Here's a local
example:
On 3/13/2012 7:45 AM, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
On 13/03/2012 11:29, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dturning_circle#Central_island
The question is whether a normal-sized turning circle can be tagged as
such if there's a small landscaped island in the
On 13/03/2012 11:57, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
The same is true for overhanging branches and such. You can't rely on
tags to know if an oversize vehicle can turn around.
Overhanging branches are not a physical property of the road in the same
way the central island is.
--
Jonathan (Jonobennett)
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dturning_circle#Central_island
The question is whether a normal-sized turning circle can be tagged as such
if there's a small landscaped island in the middle. Here's
2012/3/13 Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com:
Definitely not a turning_circle. Either map as a loop
Yes.
or mini_roundabout.
Definitively no. You can drive straight through a mini-roundabout. You
could try this at this road at your own risk! (I recommend a good car
and health insurance ;-) )
See
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote:
2012/3/13 Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com:
or mini_roundabout.
Definitively no. You can drive straight through a mini-roundabout. You
could try this at this road at your own risk! (I recommend a good car
and health
2012/3/13 Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com:
Ah, another UK peculiarity. I guess I've been misapplying
As far as I know it is the same e.g. in Hungary.
highway=mini_roundabout; but if so, we need to change this language on
the wiki page:
The mini-roundabout _usually_ does not have a physical island
2012/3/13 Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com:
Ah, another UK peculiarity. I guess I've been misapplying
As far as I know it is the same e.g. in Hungary.
In Germany, here is no difference in law, sign or language between a
mini-roundabout and roundabout.
highway=mini_roundabout; but if so, we need
2012/3/13 Ronnie Soak chaoschaos0...@googlemail.com:
The German Wiki (probably translated from the English original) states
that the difference is exactly (and only) the form of the central
island and the tagging should be done according to this feature.
As far as I know, this is correct. The
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote:
Definitely not a turning_circle. Either map as a loop or mini_roundabout.
-Josh
Not a mini_roundabout, either; those typically are painted onto the
road
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote:
1) Force everyone to draw a loop around the island (too tedious)
Or just silently fix it. That's what I do. JOSM has great drawing
tools for making nice, neat circles.
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Tagging
Without willing to interfere in this discussion about the true nature
of seemingly similar roundish street features, I'd like to point out
that ending a line with a pentagonal or hexagonal approximation of a
circle is actually less work than adding a tag on the last node (extra
5 or 6 clicks
2012/3/13 Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com:
4) Tag as turning_circle, perhaps additionally using a
traffic_calming=* value such as island [2]
My vote is for #4. Time for me to try out Overpass to get my
mis-tagged features...
For me this sounds like using two inappropriate tags instead of one.
May I ask were the definition of 'turning_cycle' comes from?
(I'm not a native English speaker)
As far as I've read on the wiki, it's a standing term in the UK
describing the 'widened end of a road intended to enable easier
turning of vehicles' and does not necessarily have to be of a circle
Am 13. März 2012 16:14 schrieb Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
Martin Vonwald wrote:
The central island - if there is
one at all - of a mini-roundabout, must be traversable, while this
is not true for the roundabout.
So NE2's original example isn't a mini-roundabout - it's a
On 3/13/2012 11:14 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Martin Vonwald wrote:
The central island - if there is
one at all - of a mini-roundabout, must be traversable, while this
is not true for the roundabout.
This is not what the wiki says and not how I've been tagging
mini_roundabouts or have seen
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Richard Fairhurst
So NE2's original example isn't a mini-roundabout - it's a roundabout.
Therefore tag it as a roundabout.
Either highway=roundabout on the node (consistent with
highway=mini_roundabout), or junction=roundabout (consistent with
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dturning_circle#Central_island
The question is whether a normal-sized turning circle can be tagged as such
if there's a small landscaped island in the middle. Here's
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