Isn't there an official dedication for a given japanese place of
worship?
Some has 1 official (main) dedication.
Some has plural dedication as official.
e.g. Katori Jingu Shrine = 経津主大神 (Futsunushi-no-Kami)
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A6%99%E5%8F%96%E7%A5%9E%E5%AE%AE
I think that when it gets really that complex, it's best to create a
wikidata item for the shrine (and probably a Wikpedia page as well, I guess
at least on ja.WP they are noteworthy enough to deserve a page), then
simply refer to that using the wikidata tag itself.
and maybe a comma delimited
On 29.01.2015 13:24, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
+1 to use wikidata.
I had once thinking about same purpose. :)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/enshrine
Sorry that I missed your proposal.
Indeed, it seems that the wikidata id makes the tagging of related enshrines
superfluous,
On 28.01.2015 05:01, John F. Eldredge wrote:
On 01/25/2015 10:29 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated
to patron saints.
E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is
obviously dedicated to Sanctus
On 28.01.2015 12:34, Andy Mabbett wrote:
There are sometimes more than one saint with the same name, This is
where Wikidata tags provide useful disambiguation.
You can either tag with:
wikidata = Q12512 (resolves to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12512
; the item for Saint Peter's
On 25 January 2015 at 16:29, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote:
patron saints.
E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is
obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter).
There are sometimes more than one saint with the same name, This is
where
2015-01-27 11:42 GMT+01:00 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com:
Speaking of Vatican, i.e. Roman Catholic Church, Mary is Blessed, not
Saint. Her title is Beata Virgo Maria (Beata Vergine Maria in Italian,
Blessed Virgin Mary in English). She is an unordinary Blessed, as she and
her feasts
On 28/01/2015 12:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2015-01-27 11:42 GMT+01:00 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com
mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com:
Speaking of Vatican, i.e. Roman Catholic Church, Mary is Blessed,
not Saint. Her title is Beata Virgo Maria (Beata Vergine Maria in
On 26 January 2015 at 00:39, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote:
maybe using Wikidata should be considered through an
additional tag such as dedication:wikidata=Q33923 for Saint Peter
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33923
I dislike these numbers. They are not human readable, and typos will
On 2015-01-28 13:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote :
2015-01-27 11:42 GMT+01:00 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com
mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com:
On 2015-01-27 11:25, André Pirard wrote :
You should urgently warn the Vatican
On 28/01/2015 16:12, André Pirard wrote:
The fact is that in French, we use no such words as Blessed.
The French equivalent is 'Bienheureux/se'. I don't suppose it's ever
used of the Virgin Mary, though.
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2015-01-28 17:12 GMT+01:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
On 2015-01-28 13:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote :
2015-01-27 11:42 GMT+01:00 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com:
On 2015-01-27 11:25, André Pirard wrote :
You should urgently warn the Vatican
2015-01-28 17:12 GMT+01:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
Speaking of Vatican, i.e. Roman Catholic Church, Mary is Blessed, not
Saint. Her title is Beata Virgo Maria (Beata Vergine Maria in Italian,
Blessed Virgin Mary in English). She is an unordinary Blessed, as she and
her feasts
2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com:
On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR
I swear, I would think that there were more of these. patron_saint:it
seems to be a common suggestion for this purpose in
And dedication was proposed.
As one of the first comments in this thread. Then it was repeated when
dedication:wikidata was mentioned.
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Le 27/01/2015 11:55, Daniel Koć a écrit :
W dniu 27.01.2015 11:25, André Pirard napisał(a):
On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote :
To be correct, the Virgin Mary isn't a saint either ;-)
You should urgently warn the Vatican [3] ! ;-)
It doesn't really matter anyway. =} Someone has
On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote :
2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com
mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com:
On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR
I swear, I would think that
2015-01-27 11:25 GMT+01:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote :
2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com:
On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR
I swear, I
W dniu 27.01.2015 11:25, André Pirard napisał(a):
On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote :
To be correct, the Virgin Mary isn't a saint either ;-)
You should urgently warn the Vatican [3] ! ;-)
It doesn't really matter anyway. =} Someone has already mentioned on
this thread that
On 01/25/2015 10:29 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated
to patron saints.
E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is
obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the
2015-01-25 23:30 GMT+01:00 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com:
If this tag is to be useful (assuming it is the sort of thing OSM
should record), maybe using Wikidata should be considered through an
additional tag such as dedication:wikidata=Q33923 for Saint Peter
On 2015-01-26 01:39, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
On 25.01.2015 23:30, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the
documentation. Things like
– use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul”
If this tag is to be useful (assuming it is the sort of thing OSM
should record), maybe using Wikidata should be considered through an
additional tag such as dedication:wikidata=Q33923 for Saint Peter
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33923
I also think we should add wikidata tags right away
On 26.01.15 08:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I am not sure if you are kidding here, but obviously this is referring to a
certain episode in the life of Mary, mother of Jesus, and not to a saint
called Heimsuchung with his last name.
I answer in German because it's too hard for me to
On 25/01/2015 16:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
I'd like to suggest a new key for patron saints. Certainly patron_saint=* or
just patron=*. There are some occurrences in Taginfo, although most values
of patron=* do not look like saints.
holy_name=* has also been suggested, but this sounds to me
On Jan 25, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Steve Doerr wrote:
In English, we often call this the 'dedication' of the church. This can
include things like Holy Cross (Sacré Cœur) which are obviously not saints.
--
Steve
I know nothing about who churches are dedicated to, but wouldn't Sacré Cœur
On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 16:20 +, Steve Doerr wrote:
On 25/01/2015 16:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
I'd like to suggest a new key for patron saints. Certainly patron_saint=* or
just patron=*. There are some occurrences in Taginfo, although most values
of patron=* do not look like saints.
On 25/01/2015 16:27, Tod Fitch wrote:
On Jan 25, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Steve Doerr wrote:
In English, we often call this the 'dedication' of the church. This
can include things like Holy Cross (Sacré Cœur) which are obviously
not saints.
--
Steve
I know nothing about who churches are
Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated
to patron saints.
E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is
obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the
patron saint is often part of the common name of a
On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this can be a useful new tag.
And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the
documentation. Things like
– use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”.
– write the name of the dedication always in
On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com wrote:
dedication
+1
If we’re going to make something that goes with the religion tag, we might want
to make it more universal.
There are different shrines for different kinds of buddhas, Different various
shinto gods, and
Am 25.01.2015 um 17:29 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at:
but the patron saint is Maria
Heimsuchung. Well, I don't know if a saint named Maria Heimsuchung really
existed, but the church is dedicated to her, so it's a patron saint at least
in an abstract sense.
I am not sure if
On 2015-01-26 01:39, Friedrich Volkmann wrote :
On 25.01.2015 23:30, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the
documentation. Things like – use always (or use never) “Saint”:
“Saint Paul”
On 2015-01-25 17:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote :
Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated
to patron saints.
E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is
obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the
On 25.01.2015 19:07, André Pirard wrote:
I think that, when they have a name=* tag (when the mapper cared to find it,
easy, they're all here (unités pastorales) http://liege.diocese.be/),
almost all churches around here are tagged with the dedication.
Looking at Liège in OSM, I see names like:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR
I swear, I would think that there were more of these. patron_saint:it seems
to be a common suggestion for this purpose in Italian discussions about
churches, I really thought we had more of them. Anyway, as you can see
there are a few
On 25.01.2015 23:30, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the
documentation. Things like
– use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”.
That's a good point. In German, there
I think this can be a useful new tag.
And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the
documentation. Things like
– use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”.
– write the name of the dedication always in the local language (Or
always in latin? Could become very
Le 25/01/2015 17:20, Steve Doerr a écrit :
In English, we often call this the 'dedication' of the church. This
can include things like Holy Cross (Sacré Cœur) which are obviously
not saints.
I would prefer the dedication rather than a patron, for, as said
above, the dedication may be a
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