Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-22 Thread Jmapb
On 8/22/2018 12:22 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: In the US, there are a vast number of places where the public goes (at normal hours), and they are not in fact public rights of way. A typical supermarket or other shopping area has parking lots, and footpaths, etc. In OSM we typically don't have

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > sent from a phone > >> On 21. Aug 2018, at 19:31, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> If it's private, then access=yes is arguably not right, as permission is >> granted to the public, vs the public having a right of access. > > > “private” (not the osm key) is about

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Aug 2018, at 19:31, Greg Troxel wrote: > > If it's private, then access=yes is arguably not right, as permission is > granted to the public, vs the public having a right of access. “private” (not the osm key) is about private ownership. This doesn’t exclude a

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-21 Thread Jmapb
On 8/21/2018 2:27 PM, SelfishSeahorse wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 19:33, Greg Troxel wrote: If it's private, then access=yes is arguably not right, as permission is granted to the public, vs the public having a right of access. So I would use access=permissive instead of yes. But this

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-21 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 19:33, Greg Troxel wrote: > If it's private, then access=yes is arguably not right, as permission is > granted to the public, vs the public having a right of access. > > So I would use > > access=permissive > > instead of yes. But this is a far larger issue than this one

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Jmapb writes: > access=yes > access:conditional=destination @ (Oct-Apr: 20:00-07:00; May-Sep: > 22:30-07:00) (ignoring foot/bicycle as that's not the point) If it's private, then access=yes is arguably not right, as permission is granted to the public, vs the public having a right of access.

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-20 Thread Jmapb
On 8/18/2018 5:02 PM, SelfishSeahorse wrote: The reason is i forgot to remove the day numbers when copy-pasting. :-) You can omit them (but you don't have to).: access=destination access:conditional=yes @ (Oct-Apr 07:00-20:00; May-Sep 07:00-22:30) Thanks -- since there's no impediment or

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-18 Thread SelfishSeahorse
PS: Or, in case access is granted only to pedestrians: > > foot=destination foot:conditional=yes @ (Oct-Apr 07:00-20:00; May-Sep 07:00-22:30) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-18 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Saturday, August 18, 2018, Jmapb wrote: > > > Any particular reason to include the day numbers rather than just using > the month name to indicate the whole month? > The reason is i forgot to remove the day numbers when copy-pasting. :-) You can omit them (but you don't have to).:

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-18 Thread Jmapb
On 8/18/2018 4:51 AM, Warin wrote: Local conditions could mean a pedestrian way is accessible by a bicycle, a moped... in which case the conditional tagging would go to access=destination access:conditional=yes @ (Oct 1-Apr 30 07:00-20:00, May 1-Sep 30 07:00-22:30) Thanks both of you --

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-18 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Saturday, August 18, 2018, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > foot=destination > foot:conditional=yes @ (Oct 1-Apr 30 07:00-20:00, May 1-Sep 30 07:00-22:30) > Sorry, i've made a mistake: there should be a semicolon instead of a comma: foot:conditional=yes @ (Oct 1-Apr 30 07:00-20:00; May 1-Sep 30

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-18 Thread Warin
On 18/08/18 17:19, SelfishSeahorse wrote: Hi On Friday, August 17, 2018, Jmapb > wrote: I've got a pedestrian way behind a large apartment building (leads to a back entrance) that's restricted to residents only after hours. Or more precisely, it's signed

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-18 Thread SelfishSeahorse
Hi On Friday, August 17, 2018, Jmapb wrote: > I've got a pedestrian way behind a large apartment building (leads to a > back entrance) that's restricted to residents only after hours. Or more > precisely, it's signed "Open to the public Oct 1 - Apr 30 7am-8pm, May 1 - > Sep 30 7am-10:30pm." > >

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-17 Thread Jmapb
Oops, sorry to self-reply, should be: access=yes access:conditional=destination @ (Oct-Apr: 20:00-07:00; May-Sep: 22:30-07:00) On 8/17/2018 4:56 PM, Jmapb wrote: I've got a pedestrian way behind a large apartment building (leads to a back entrance) that's restricted to residents only after

[Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-17 Thread Jmapb
I've got a pedestrian way behind a large apartment building (leads to a back entrance) that's restricted to residents only after hours. Or more precisely, it's signed "Open to the public Oct 1 - Apr 30 7am-8pm, May 1 - Sep 30 7am-10:30pm." My best guess at tagging is: access=yes