Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > > I think the wiki > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout > > is very clear about this, one has to connect the roads in a single node > > and add the tag

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Volker Schmidt
The reason why we have two different mapping approaches for mini-roundabout and roundabout is that at least in one country (that happens to be the birth-country of OSM) there is a clear distinction between the two with different road layouts (see

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Gerd Petermann
com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. November 2015 09:23 An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle The reason why we have two different mapping approaches for mini-roundabout and roundabout is that at least in one country (that h

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Colin Smale
That depends on how the mini-roundabouts are modelled in the route network, so it's chicken and egg. I mentioned what I would expect, and you are right, that's not always how it happens now. But if I ask a fellow human for directions, they will call it a roundabout, as in "turn left at the

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Gerd Petermann
tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 05:35:53PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > > > Hi Gerd, > > Personally from a navigation point of view I expect roundabouts and > mini-roundabouts to be treated the same, i

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 05:35:53PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > > > Hi Gerd, > > Personally from a navigation point of view I expect roundabouts and > mini-roundabouts to be treated the same, i.e. "take the first exit at They are currently not - Most navigational software basically does not

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Richard Mann
Just to add to the fun, we're now getting a new type of roundabout, with a different-coloured circle of tarmac and no signs (or markings) at all. I'd use a node if the mini-roundabout is just an ineffectual piece of traffic calming, and make a circle if people genuinely give way (yes I know that's

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-04 Thread Colin Smale
lues for the obstacle? > > Gerd > > > Von: Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. November 2015 11:03 > An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Betreff: Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle &

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-03 Thread Gerd Petermann
Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. November 2015 17:35 An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle Hi Gerd, Personally from a navigation point of view I expect roundabouts and mini-roundabouts to be treated the sam

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-03 Thread GerdP
voschix wrote > if you are talking only about your specific example, I would say that in > this specific case we have normal roundabout which has been adapted for > the > situation of the harbour area where the centre piece has no rigid border, > but it's certainly not flat. It seems also the

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.11.2015 17:14, Gerd Petermann napisał(a): I'd also be happy with e.g. center_barrier=no or just barrier=no as an attribute on the ways which make up the junction=roundabout. For me area=yes would work (because it's the area instead of the line). -- "The train is always on time /

[Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-03 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi all, I think the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout is very clear about this, one has to connect the roads in a single node and add the tag highway=mini_roundabout. However, there seems to be a need to draw a circular way instead. See my discussion with

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-03 Thread Gerd Petermann
: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle W dniu 03.11.2015 17:14, Gerd Petermann napisał(a): > I'd also be happy with e.g. > > center_barrier=no > > or just barrier=no > > as an attribute on the ways which mak

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-03 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Gerd, Personally from a navigation point of view I expect roundabouts and mini-roundabouts to be treated the same, i.e. "take the first exit at the roundabout" not simply "turn right". In the UK (where there are lot of mini-roundabouts) you are expected to drive "around" a painted

Re: [Tagging] roundabouts without obstacles in the middle

2015-11-03 Thread Volker Schmidt
Gerd, if you are talking only about your specific example, I would say that in this specific case we have normal roundabout which has been adapted for the situation of the harbour area where the centre piece has no rigid border, but it's certainly not flat. It seems also the islands in he roads