On 14/08/19 09:47, Paul Allen wrote:
On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 23:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick
mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 00:18, Paul Allen mailto:pla16...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What might be feasible, and better is one of the following (in
order of
On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 23:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:
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> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 00:18, Paul Allen wrote:
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>> What might be feasible, and better is one of the following (in order of
>> preference)
>>
>
> Not arguing or disagreeing in any way, but poor bloody Admins ... :-(
>
Indeed. But
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 00:18, Paul Allen wrote:
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> What might be feasible, and better is one of the following (in order of
> preference)
>
Not arguing or disagreeing in any way, but poor bloody Admins ... :-(
Thanks
Graeme
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 19:20, Hufkratzer wrote:
> On 13.08.2019 16:16, Paul Allen wrote:
> > [...] None of those are perfect, and maybe somebody can come up with
> something better. [...]
>
> My suggestion is that the bot only updates in one direction: values of
> wiki pages always take
On 13.08.2019 16:16, Paul Allen wrote:
> [...] None of those are perfect, and maybe somebody can come up with
something better. [...]
My suggestion is that the bot only updates in one direction: values of
wiki pages always take precedence and override corresponding fields in
the data
On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 15:05, Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
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> "...I couldn't get the status "abandoned" to show up as an option, so
> gave up. I expect your bot will fix it in the morning. ..." - Jeisenbe
> " Sadly no, the bot won't fix it -- it will never touch anything
> contaminated by humans :)
Unfortunately, the "bot" stops working if the data item is directly
edited, according to Yurik's comment on my talk page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Jeisenbe#Status_removal
"...I couldn't get the status "abandoned" to show up as an option, so
gave up. I expect your bot will
13 Aug 2019, 07:52 by hufkrat...@gmail.com:
>> Fortunately we can (and should) ignore it
>> by filling parameters of the template.
>>
>>
>
> On the wiki pages you can ignore / overwrite most of the the valuesfrom
> data items but in iD you always get the values from the dataitems. In
I guess next, someone will come up with another solution to replace both,
so we will have three solutuions. And then, someone...
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 13 aug. 2019 om 09:26 schreef Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>:
> Re: >On the wiki pages you can ignore / overwrite most of
Re: >On the wiki pages you can ignore / overwrite most of the the
values from data items but in iD you always get the values from the
data items.
Yuri,
This is quite concerning. If ID is getting descriptions and other data
from the data items, but the pages are displaying the text on the
page,
On 13.08.2019 07:21, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
12 Aug 2019, 20:24 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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On 12. Aug 2019, at 18:02, Andy Townsend
wrote:
I don't think it's unavoidable - presumably you can just
ignore the wikidata stuff and carry on
12 Aug 2019, 20:24 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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>
> sent from a phone
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>> On 12. Aug 2019, at 18:02, Andy Townsend wrote:
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>> I don't think it's unavoidable - presumably you can just ignore the wikidata
>> stuff and carry on as before?
>>
>
>
> I had thought so as well, but then I saw the
"OSM meta item" or a "OSM meta dataitem"... naming is hard :)
Wikibase is too close to Wikidata, thus has caused some confusion -- that's
why I avoid calling it that.
I agree that we can (and should!) customize data items editing experience,
make it simpler for OSM community. This is
I’ve been calling the system “wikibase”, but don’t know if this is clearer.
I’d avoid saying “OSM data items” because this sounds very similar to “OSM
database objects”.’
We could say “(OSM) wiki data items”?
Or “Openstreetmap.org wikibase data items”?
But what do we call the whole data
On 12.08.19 20:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> AFAIK the template is not filled from wikidata.org but rather from a wikidata
> installation on OpenStreetMap-Foundation servers (or for OpenStreetMap but on
> another server), with information harvested in the osm wiki. It is a parallel
> system
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> On 12. Aug 2019, at 18:02, Andy Townsend wrote:
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> I'm concerned that some wikidata entries are just plain wrong -
AFAIK the template is not filled from wikidata.org but rather from a wikidata
installation on OpenStreetMap-Foundation servers (or for OpenStreetMap but
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> On 12. Aug 2019, at 18:02, Andy Townsend wrote:
>
> I don't think it's unavoidable - presumably you can just ignore the wikidata
> stuff and carry on as before?
I had thought so as well, but then I saw the edit which removed the whole
template information from the page
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 17:05, Andy Townsend wrote:
> useful despite that.
>
> I'm concerned that some wikidata entries are just plain wrong -
> especially in places where OSM's use of a word doesn't match the normal
> English (any English - English, American, Hiberno-, etc.) usage of that
>
On 12/08/2019 00:05, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Is it now unavoidable that the info box content on tag definition
pages in the wiki comes from the database? Is there consensus that the
higher complexity to edit it is less important than the features we
gain from it
I don't think it's
I've found it quite confusing. Fortunately, user Yurik, who seems to
be leading the efforts to create the data items (wikibase), has been
quick about answering my questions when I didn't understand the
system.
But initially I couldn't figure out how to add description in another
language (turns
On 12/08/19 09:05, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I believe this is incapacitating the wider community and creating a
context where it becomes almost impossible for an ordinary mapper to
make even a small modification to these parts in the wiki.
I don't think making a change is a problem. The
12 Aug 2019, 01:05 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
> Is it now unavoidable that the info box content on tag definition pages in
> the wiki comes from the database?
>
It is avoidable, just specify values in the template.
I just reverted edit that for some unexplained reason damaged wiki page.
Is it now unavoidable that the info box content on tag definition pages in the
wiki comes from the database? Is there consensus that the higher complexity to
edit it is less important than the features we gain from it?
E.g. here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dbridge
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