Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/15 sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org: On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: For the lake in the forest: do you agree that someone would say: the lake (pond) is in the forest? Like a way in the forest, which doesn't have trees growing on it, but still is in the

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-16 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On vendredi 16 octobre 2009, Emilie Laffray wrote: 2009/10/16 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com +1, I agree. Inside a landuse=residential we could than map the different surfaces. I'd suggest to use the key surface for the ground-cover, or is there a problem with it?

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-16 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: It obviously failed at that completely. The most used tags (landuse=residential, industrial, farm, commercial, military, retail...) don't give any detail about ground cover. It has become so bad that I don't see a way to

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-16 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: Residential isn't exclusive at all. Not to say that what it's actually used for in OSM can have different meanings amongst different mappers. You'll find many parks in OSM for example inside a residential polygon. I've never

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-16 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: Well then ground cover isn't what we need.  We need land use. Land use is generally studied on a parcel by parcel basis.  The fact that OSM mappers make these huge polygons which cover entire towns is fine,

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-16 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Land use is generally studied on a parcel by parcel basis. A typical example of a land use map: http://cityofypsilanti.com/maps/images/mastermap2006www.jpg Here is

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/14 sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org: In the holes continuity, it as been proposed that an area representing something inside another area would still be part of a multipolygon relation but with it's own tags. no, this is not the case. Multipolygon says: the inner part is NOT

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Dave F.
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: well, even in the case lake inside a forest I'm not sure, if the forest stops where there is the lake. Probably you can consider the lake also part of the forest (when it's small), or to give a different example: elementary school inside a residential area. Usually

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: no, this is not the case. Multipolygon says: the inner part is NOT part of the outer polygon. I didn't say that ;-) I said : an area representing something inside another area would still be part of a multipolygon relation (I assumed

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: For the lake in the forest: do you agree that someone would say: the lake (pond) is in the forest? Like a way in the forest, which doesn't have trees growing on it, but still is in the forest. It is not excluded. That's a human language

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Anthony wrote: What happens when there's a section of forest which people are using as their residence? No matter what the size, I see these as mutually exclusive. In other words they can't both occur in the same place.