Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-19 20:53 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: I am happy with current rendering, and I want to keep that when the names are stripped. The OSM mapnik layer will hopefully add the amin_name to the border labels, so that Gutenbrunn will show up as Gemeinde Gutenbrunn again, or as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-22 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 22.12.2014 10:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: What about Marktgemeinde Gutenbrunn (that's what they call themselves on their official homepage)? No, that's advertising language, they are showing off their market right in order to impress their visitors and to attract investors. -- Friedrich

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-21 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: In the UK designation= is in wide usage for this. +1 I think designation=* fits perfectly with what is intended by the OP's proposal. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-19 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 18.12.2014 17:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: yes, legally it's Einheitsgemeinde, but that's maybe not a title... The Land has the title Stadtstaat, and of course it's also Bundeshauptstadt. Which one should go into admin_title and why? Have a look at Gemeinde Gutenbrunn:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 17.12.2014 22:08, Andreas Goss wrote: So what do you do with Berlin? State? City? Stadtstaat (Citystate)? As far as I can see, Berlin is a Bundesland and a Gemeinde. So you should have one boundary relation for each level. If you decide to use a boundary relation for the top level only,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-17 20:11 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: On 17.12.2014 16:56, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: isn't this already covered by name and its variants? e.g. name=Bezirk Zwettl short_name=Zwettl or name=Zwettl official_name=Bezirk Zwettl ? No, because the official name

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-18 13:52 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: On 17.12.2014 22:08, Andreas Goss wrote: So what do you do with Berlin? State? City? Stadtstaat (Citystate)? the official name AFAIK is Land Berlin As far as I can see, Berlin is a Bundesland and a Gemeinde. The term

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 17.12.2014 23:23, Colin Smale wrote: In the UK designation= is in wide usage for this. I don't know if it is typically a UK thing (it wouldn't surprise me) but local governments sometimes have the right to change their style - for example a civil parish can choose autonomously to call

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Colin Smale
On 2014-12-18 14:42, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: On 17.12.2014 23:23, Colin Smale wrote: In the UK designation= is in wide usage for this. I don't know if it is typically a UK thing (it wouldn't surprise me) but local governments sometimes have the right to change their style - for example a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 18.12.2014 14:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: the official name AFAIK is Land Berlin Sounds good. So it's admin_title=Land, then. As far as I can see, Berlin is a Bundesland and a Gemeinde. The term Bundesland is of mostly colloquial use, the official term is Land, so it is Land

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-18 16:42 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: As far as I can see, Berlin is a Bundesland and a Gemeinde. The term Bundesland is of mostly colloquial use, the official term is Land, so it is Land Berlin for the admin level 4 entity. At the same time, it is also Stadt

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-18 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 18.12.2014 16:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: In Berlin there is no such thing like a Gemeinde there are the Bezirke divided into Ortsteile, and while the first do correspond roughly to Landkreisen (regarding the number of inhabitants) they don't have the power (they are indeed not even

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-17 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Sorry, the German examples don't mean much to me. Do the examples below show what you're proposing? name=Chicago, admin_title=city, admin_level... name=California, admin_title=state, admin_level On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote: This is about a new

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-17 16:25 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: This is about a new attribute for administrative devisions. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/admin_title isn't this already covered by name and its variants? e.g. name=Bezirk Zwettl short_name=Zwettl or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-17 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 17.12.2014 16:56, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: isn't this already covered by name and its variants? e.g. name=Bezirk Zwettl short_name=Zwettl or name=Zwettl official_name=Bezirk Zwettl ? No, because the official name is just Zwettl. But in most cases when you talk about Bezirk Zwettl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-17 Thread Andreas Goss
So what do you do with Berlin? State? City? Stadtstaat (Citystate)? __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-17 Thread Colin Smale
In the UK designation= is in wide usage for this. I don't know if it is typically a UK thing (it wouldn't surprise me) but local governments sometimes have the right to change their style - for example a civil parish can choose autonomously to call itself a community council. It can also choose