Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
It shouldn't be too hard to make a JOSM add-on that converts 3 letters into 2. So that's no problem. How about those time domains? Could we use them to map temporary closed roads? Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: It shouldn't be too hard to make a JOSM add-on that converts 3 letters into 2. So that's no problem. You seem to be not seeing the point. Two letter days of the week (DOW) may be standard in German, and that's fine. But the

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-23 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I don't think three letters is quite as universal as you think. It's also really common in English to use M,T,W,T,F,S,S (in context) or M,Tu,W,Th,F,Sa,Su or variations. Since we have a defacto OSM standard with two letters (the opening_hours key has over 100K uses), and it's unambiguous, this

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-23 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/1/23 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: It shouldn't be too hard to make a JOSM add-on that converts 3 letters into 2. So that's no problem. You seem to be not seeing the point. Two letter days of the week (DOW)

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-22 Thread Andrew Errington
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:36:57 Serge Wroclawski wrote: there have been some minor additions resulting in an updated spec. The one comment I have is that I'm not at all used to seeing two letter days of the week. I've always seen them as Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat, Sun. This is obviously

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-22 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com wrote: Surely this is 'internal'. That is, it's nice that some people can read Mo, Tu, We, etc., but for others, they are just 'coded' days of the week. Date producers need to understand the meaning of Mo, Tu, etc. so

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-22 Thread Martin Vonwald
2013/1/22 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com wrote: Surely this is 'internal'. That is, it's nice that some people can read Mo, Tu, We, etc., but for others, they are just 'coded' days of the week. Date producers need

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/22/13 6:57 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote: 2013/1/22 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com: So why use a codification that no one else uses, to save a byte? Because it is used? Even pretty often - at least in my perception. i use it when i encode times for OSM because it's the documented method

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/22 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Am 22.01.2013 12:51, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: Except why use abbreviations that no one uses elsewhere? I've never seen two letter abbreviations for days of the week outside OSM, in any computer system. So why use a codification that no one

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-22 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi Serge, Am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2013, 06:51:29 schrieb Serge Wroclawski: Except why use abbreviations that no one uses elsewhere? I've never seen two letter abbreviations for days of the week outside OSM, in any computer system. So why use a codification that no one else uses, to save a

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-22 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Eckhart Wörner ewoer...@kde.org wrote: nobody else? Windows Vista: http://www.askdavetaylor.com/1-blog-pics/vista-date-time-pop-up.png Windows 7: http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/bc/win7/taskbar/changeDateTime.gif Windows 8:

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-21 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi everybody, Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2013, 15:16:14 schrieb Eckhart Wörner: The latest version of the proposal is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Time_domains there have been some minor additions resulting in an updated spec. Here is the list of opening_hours

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/21/13 4:36 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: there have been some minor additions resulting in an updated spec. The one comment I have is that I'm not at all used to seeing two letter days of the week. I've always seen them as Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat, Sun. This is obviously cultural, but

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-20 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/20/13 9:16 AM, Eckhart Wörner wrote: Hi everybody, last year, I started an RFC to properly define time domains. Unfortunately, due to lack of time I wasn't able to follow-up on this. I would like to revive the discussion. The latest version of the proposal is here:

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-20 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi Serge, Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2013, 10:00:11 schrieb Serge Wroclawski: The Microformats community seems to be going through a similar process: http://microformats.org/wiki/opening-hours The funny part is that they use our current spec as an example of opening hours done right. I fail to

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-20 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi Richard, Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2013, 09:46:37 schrieb Richard Welty: Generating results, this may take some time... how long does this normally take? it downloads some data, then processes it using JavaScript. Here is a static version: