Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:02 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > you’ll have to put the ridges to map the watersheds anyway, the catchment > basin is implicit with the waterways, coastlines and ridges. > > If there are names or other properties for the watersheds and catchment > basins in play,

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Sep 2018, at 10:02, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > "do we really have to map this explicitly with relations? Can’t you already > see them from the waterway and ridge data?" > > 1) Ridges are missing in many parts of the world, partially because they are > not

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 13 September 2018, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Christoph, > So you believe the ridges are verifiable (and the network of > waterways, I assume), but potentially parts of the watershed would > not be verifiable because eg. terrain is too flat? There are many reasons why a the watershed

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
"In fact this does occur, a river can disappear into the sand! And some lakes have no outflow." Right, these are called an "endorheic basin"; an area where the water flow does not reach the ocean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorheic_basin In one of my examples above, the river disappears into

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Warin
I believe some waterways in Australia will flow away from wherever the rain happens to fall ... That is a produce not just of the flatness of the terrain but also to the quantity of rain - there can be 5 years of rainfall delivered in a single day. Someone has put in the Australian Great

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
(Sorry, Lake Habema is https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8688509) On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:12 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Christoph, > So you believe the ridges are verifiable (and the network of waterways, I > assume), but potentially parts of the watershed would not be verifiable >

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Christoph, So you believe the ridges are verifiable (and the network of waterways, I assume), but potentially parts of the watershed would not be verifiable because eg. terrain is too flat? I was thinking that in fairly flat areas it is still possbile to see which way water flows in drainage

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 13 September 2018, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Relations of type=watershed are currently used over 2000 times and > there is a descriptive Wiki page but no proposal. ( > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:watershed) > > It would be useful to have a relation that showed drainage

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
"do we really have to map this explicitly with relations? Can’t you already see them from the waterway and ridge data?" 1) Ridges are missing in many parts of the world, partially because they are not rendered, but also because it might not be clear how they can be useful. The presence of

Re: [Tagging] Watershed or Drainage Basin relation draft proposal

2018-09-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
do we really have to map this explicitly with relations? Can’t you already see them from the waterway and ridge data? IIRR, people have been rendering maps for these in the past by just analyzing existing waterway data, no need for explicit watersheds.