Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-31 Thread Warin
On 01/02/19 11:28, Kevin Kenny wrote: I wonder whether we are arguing hypotheticals here. Well long tones (lt) helps explain short tons. Both lbs and kg appear in the data base .. so I'll add them. So do 'person', I assume for a lift/elevator. Add that too. There are some strange units

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-31 Thread Kevin Kenny
I wonder whether we are arguing hypotheticals here. Is there still highway signage, anywhere, with weight limits in long tons? I don't know, but I'd have imagined that the UK would have gone to metric signs a long time ago. (I imagine that there are still historic bridges with the old placards on

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-30 Thread Warin
On 31/01/19 07:20, Minh Nguyen wrote: On 2019-01-26 15:27, Warin wrote: The only problem is the 'ton'. I n the USA 2,000 pounds In the UK 2,240 pounds. Resolving this? units 'ton us' and 'ton uk' ??? I've been converting to pounds (lbs), which avoids this ambiguity with precise

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-30 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2019-01-26 15:27, Warin wrote: The only problem is the 'ton'. I n the USA 2,000 pounds In the UK 2,240 pounds. Resolving this? units 'ton us' and 'ton uk' ??? I've been converting to pounds (lbs), which avoids this ambiguity with precise conversions. Apparently I'm not alone. [1] But

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-28 Thread Warin
dow...@gmail.com> *Sent:* 27 January 2019 23:11 *To:* tagging@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons On 28/01/19 04:24, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-01-27 17:53, OSMDoudou wrote: Indeed, it's very strange to require mappers do the maths when there is a no

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-27 Thread Warin
On 28/01/19 04:24, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-01-27 17:53, OSMDoudou wrote: Indeed, it's very strange to require mappers do the maths when there is a notation to indicate the unit and let the renderers do the maths. Hi! Why do you talk about math? Do you expect renderers to automatically

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-27 Thread Sergio Manzi
On 2019-01-27 17:53, OSMDoudou wrote: > Indeed, it's very strange to require mappers do the maths when there is a > notation to indicate the unit and let the renderers do the maths. Hi! Why do you talk about math? Do you expect renderers to automatically convert weights from whatever unit

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-27 Thread OSMDoudou
Indeed, it's very strange to require mappers do the maths when there is a notation to indicate the unit and let the renderers do the maths. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-27 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 04:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have edited the units page to include the long ton. > > For the benefit of mappers who do not understand the distinction or know how many pounds there are in their local ton, it would be useful to indicate that the short ton

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Warin
I have edited the units page to include the long ton. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units And edited the weight page to exclude the unit from the definition. And also mention the tonne (BE!). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweight It makes a few barleycorns of

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 00:49, Sergio Manzi wrote: > ... but now I have a doubt... I don't find any referenece... have I been > pranked? :-/ > I thought perhaps you had, because I couldn't turn up anything on a google search. Which is why I said I hadn't heard of it. But I was puzzled when you

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Sergio Manzi
... but now I have a doubt... I don't find any referenece... have I been pranked? :-/ On 2019-01-27 01:45, Sergio Manzi wrote: > On 2019-01-27 01:32, Paul Allen wrote: >> I have no idea what a "cental ton" is.  Should I drink more covfefe? >> > Aahahhahahh! :-) Nice, and I had quite a similar

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Sergio Manzi
On 2019-01-27 01:32, Paul Allen wrote: > I have no idea what a "cental ton" is.  Should I drink more covfefe? > Aahahhahahh! :-) Nice, and I had quite a similar reaction when I first heard about it (by an English gentleman): /"cental" /from the Latin "centum" (one hundred), because the US short

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 00:09, Sergio Manzi wrote: > I've also always known them as "short ton" and "long ton" and I agree > whith your choice, but... > > actually "short ton" and "long ton" are the terms used in the U.S., while > AFAIK Brits distinguish between "imperial ton" and "cental ton",

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Sergio Manzi
On 2019-01-27 00:42, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 23:28, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > The only problem is the 'ton'. > > I n the USA 2,000 pounds > In the UK 2,240 pounds. > > Resolving this? units 'ton us' and 'ton uk'

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 23:28, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > The only problem is the 'ton'. > > I n the USA 2,000 pounds > In the UK 2,240 pounds. > > Resolving this? units 'ton us' and 'ton uk' ??? > Why not use the terms that they are well known by when it is necessary to distinguish

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Warin
The only problem is the 'ton'. I n the USA 2,000 pounds In the UK 2,240 pounds. Resolving this? units 'ton us' and 'ton uk' ??? Fortunately most of the rest of the work has gone metric. On 27/01/19 09:54, Warin wrote: On 26/01/19 19:55, Tobias Zwick wrote: Hey there, as I was illustrating

Re: [Tagging] weight limit in short tons

2019-01-26 Thread Warin
On 26/01/19 19:55, Tobias Zwick wrote: Hey there, as I was illustrating the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweight article with some example signs and notes about pitfalls, I noticed that the wiki says here that the weight *must always* be defined in metric units. It is incorrect.