Re: [Tagging] How to tag pipestems (shared driveways)

2011-02-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/27 Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com:
 Again, I'm fine with not creating another tag (like
 driveway=pipestem), but the next best thing I can think of is to do
 something like operator=123-129 Suburb Street (as that's what's
 shown on signs, ugly for parsing), or perhaps I could create a
 pipestem relation showing which houses are responsible for the road
 :).


I think that if these roads have characteristics/properties that
distinct them from the rest of the highways (like maintenance, maybe
access, ownership) which all roads of this type (pipestem) share in
your area, IMHO you suggested the better solution by proposing a new
tag driveway=pipeway. Operator is not suitable (it is always different
and therefor you couldn't evaluate it the same way) and relations seem
just another way to tag the same thing in a more complex way (on the
other hand adding different detail, so it might be an additional way).

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag pipestems (shared driveways)

2011-02-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
 tag driveway=pipeway.

sorry, of course this should read pipestem ;-)

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Re: [Tagging] How to tag pipestems (shared driveways)

2011-02-27 Thread Steve Doerr
On a side-note, this meaning of 'pipestem' seems to be completely 
unknown to the Oxford English Dictionary, despite the fact that they 
revised this whole section of the alphabet ('pi-mesic' to 'pleating') 
for an update released in June 2006. Perhaps someone should tell them 
about it?


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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Let's put more wikipedia-tags in OSM WAS Re: [OSM-dev] Some Questions about the Collaboration of OpenStreetMap and Wikipedia

2011-02-27 Thread Zhijie Shen
Hi Andrzej,

What is the EPA hazards import? I'm not aware of it. Would you please give a
brief introduction or link?

I've written an automatic Wikipedia entry crawler, using name and coordinate
to retrieve the appropriate entry (there often exists coord section in
infobox or stand-alone in a Wikipedia entry content). I've described it in
another thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openstreetmap.org/msg14211.html. Or you can
check my Wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Zhijie_Shen.
Please have a look at it. I only use simple way to retrieve the Wikipedia
entries, but I believe there must be some more sophisticated information
retrieval methods.

Regards,
Zhijie

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:41 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 25 February 2011 17:20, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  2011/2/25 Zhijie Shen zjshe...@gmail.com:
  On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:16 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
  dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
  display them as an overlay. We cannot (AFAIK) import those coordinates
  into OSM because we believe that they were mainly created from
  Googlemaps hence constitute a derived database [1].
  Yes, I agree the coordinates cannot be directly imported into OSM,
  otherwise, some inconsistence issues may occur.
 
 
  Actually the problem is more of a legal nature. We can't import them,
  because their copyright is not compatible with our community
  guidelines.

 It is also technical, I suspect the way such an import would work out
 would be similar to the EPA hazards import (or whatever).  It would be
 only discrete nodes and both the type of the POI and the name to give
 it would be difficult to obtain automatically from a wikipedia page.
 The precision of the coordinates in WP also depends a lot on the types
 of objects.  Some types of infoboxes could probably be treated
 programatically but not much more.

 Cheers




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Zhijie Shen
School of Computing
National University of Singapore
http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/%7Ez-shen/
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