If I am not mistaken, the French were the first to have roaundabouts in
quantities, but they all had the priority-to-the-right rule at the time,
i.e. the priority was to the traffic entering the circle. See
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrefour_giratoire
This was one of the particularities you
Hi Paul,
As long as I see hundrets of streets, (most of them in North and South
America, although that may be accidently), that abbreviate Street to St,
Avenue to Ave and much more I wouldn't bother in cases I don't know the
long term.
Even if there may be the chance to find what it means, I
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote:
Only relatively recently (1984) the French introduced the roundabout with
priority in the ring.
Today, most of the roundabouts in France are ... roundabouts where
traffic in the ring has right of way and they are tagged
Am 17/giu/2014 um 22:47 schrieb Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
I'd call it a full blown roundabout, since you're still expected to go around
it to the right in order to go left.
+1, this is by no means a mini roundabout.
cheers,
Martin
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Btw, we also have some special cases like this one:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/47.20880/-1.58741layers=N
where a tramway is crossing the roundabout. It's a normal roundabout
(not a traffic circle) excepted that traffic
After a quick search:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011218005945/http://www.kwtv.com/news/strange/ixl.htm
it seems that the name **is** an abbreviation (and for what is
lost), in which case you don't have to expand it. (perhaps add a tag
note to explain the case...)
Pieren
On 2014-06-17 at 14:49:33 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote:
* Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2014-06-17 16:43 +0200]:
you can find big roundabouts with traffic lights in most of the big
European cities, another reason (besides the controlling the motorized
traffic) is to let pedestrians
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpipeline is not mentioning
how pipeline bridges should be tagged.
I expect that it would be [man_made=pipeline, location=overground, bridge=yes,
layer=*].
example: http://goo.gl/maps/nCtc2
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2014-06-18 11:06 GMT+02:00 Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com:
+1, any case where the traffic light is usually off (or blinking yellow)
and normal roundabout rules apply except for sporadic events (pedestrian
crossings, too much traffic on some direction, etc.) walks and quacks
2014-06-18 11:21 GMT+02:00 bulwersator bulwersa...@zoho.com:
I expect that it would be [man_made=pipeline, location=overground,
bridge=yes, layer=*].
+1
cheers,
Martin
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+1
*François Lacombe*
francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
http://www.infos-reseaux.com
2014-06-18 11:28 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
2014-06-18 11:21 GMT+02:00 bulwersator bulwersa...@zoho.com:
I expect that it would be [man_made=pipeline,
I reckon that if it isn't an abbreviation for any extant longer name, it is
no longer an abbreviation, and has become the full name in its own right.
On 18 Jun 2014 10:06, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
After a quick search:
Could someone precise me why abbreviations should always be avoided in
tagging please ?
I think it's a waste of HDD space and a potential source of errors and
misspellings, for company names or even categorization tags (generator:type
for instance).
Nevertheless, I agree we should write Street
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I expect that it would be [man_made=pipeline, location=overground,
bridge=yes, layer=*].
+1
-1
I would expect bridge=yes to be combined with highways only. Here
nobody can walk/drive on the pipe. We don't call
2014-06-18 12:11 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
I would expect bridge=yes to be combined with highways only. Here
nobody can walk/drive on the pipe. We don't call it a bridge.
location=overground is enough.
FYI, a common combination for the bridge-attribute is also with railways
and
Thank you guys.
Ok for compression, not so much hdd space wasted.
There is a space coding issue too.
Let's take United States of America for instance :
United States of America
United_States_of_America
United-States-of-America
United_States-of-America
which are as many different values.
Even
What is wrong with spaces?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 04:27:04 -0700 lt;bgt;François Lacombe
lt;francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eugt;lt;/bgt; wrote
Should we retrieve context with other keys or deal with those ugly blank spaces
?
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First of all, full text queries I mean.
And then, anyone can use strokes or underscores as shown :
United States of America
United_States_of_America
United-States-of-America
United_States-of-America
That's a problem since there are many possible combinations which are not
allowed with
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
I've never heard of this turning circle term. Maybe we should call this a
turning circle, and then beg routing application developers to treat it the
same as roundabout.
Currently, the wiki suggests to tag equally both
2014-06-18 13:57 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
Currently, the wiki suggests to tag equally both types of junctions
([1]). To avoid confusion, we could use a specific tag like
junction=traffic_circle (already 33 in taginfo) (then we could
discuss about the oneway=yes implied or not).
What about the homepage of the city [1]? There it says that The actual
name comes from the fact that our town site on a strip of Cherokee land
famous for the Oklahoma Land Run. The name stands for *Indian Exchange
Land*.
Cheers,
Florian
[1]:
On 6/18/14 8:28 AM, Florian Schäfer wrote:
What about the homepage of the city [1]? There it says that The actual
name comes from the fact that our town site on a strip of Cherokee land
famous for the Oklahoma Land Run. The name stands for *Indian Exchange
Land*.
in this case, i'd argue that
2014-06-18 13:34 GMT+02:00 François Lacombe
francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu:
First of all, full text queries I mean.
And then, anyone can use strokes or underscores as shown :
United States of America
United_States_of_America
United-States-of-America
United_States-of-America
The routing app could also say go to the first circle and then take
the second exit and it would be well understood too, I think. If the
user is aware of the differences between a roundabout and a traffic
circle, he/she will even know beforehand if they're supposed to
stop/yield at the entrances
2014-06-18 15:35 GMT+02:00 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net:
On 6/18/14 8:28 AM, Florian Schäfer wrote:
What about the homepage of the city [1]? There it says that The actual
name comes from the fact that our town site on a strip of Cherokee land
famous for the Oklahoma Land Run. The name
Am Sonntag, den 15.06.2014, 16:02 +0200 schrieb fly:
Please, be careful. Not all of the numeric housenames are errors. You
have to check them individually or maybe better contact the user and ask
for clarification.
I've added a feature request for keepright:
Reading from the wiki: This is sometimes used in some countries like
England instead of [1] (or in addition to [2]) a house number.
From that, I originally understood that one would use housename:
[1] when a house number does not apply (when houses are identified by
names/non-numeric codes, not
I think there's an excellent point which is being danced around, which
is that there's a conflation between a building's name and the
addr:housename.
Perhaps there's a call for a building name tag which may or may not be
the addr:housename tag?
- Serge
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Fernando
On 2014-06-18 13:27, François Lacombe wrote :
2014-06-18 11:50 GMT+02:00 François Lacombe
francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu
mailto:francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu:
Could someone precise me why abbreviations should always be
avoided in tagging please ?
I
On 2014-06-15 20:44, Peter Wendorff wrote :
Hi Andreas,
IMHO
- access=emergency is a basic access restriction, which states that only
emergency vehicles are allowed here (unless otherwise specified).
According to Key:access http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access,
there is no
Am 19/giu/2014 um 00:38 schrieb André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
To exclude all other vehicles, one must add (see key=access category tree)
access=no
with access=no you exclude everybody (also pedestrians, etc), to exclude
vehicles use
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:
They would certainly not rely on them anyway if OSM people laugh at people
who believe in OSM GPS and hence at themselves.
This is a thing?
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:50 AM, François Lacombe
francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu wrote:
Could someone precise me why abbreviations should always be avoided in
tagging please ?
This is already explained at length in the wiki, but chiefly because it
disambiguates things a lot. Data
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:50 AM, François Lacombe
francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu wrote:
Could someone precise me why abbreviations should always be avoided in
tagging please ?
This is already explained at
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:37 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:
But cultural issues interfere.
To a Russian speaking person, street is nothing but ул. (улица)
And that's the same in English. I wonder if the explanation not to
abbreviate has been properly translated in the wiki
We have house names in Oklahoma, too, especially for buildings that predate
statehood, government buildings (especially tribal landmarks), and just
small towns in general (For example, the school in many of these small
towns is often addressable as Anytown School, Whatever Street, Anytown, OK,
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