Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread geow
Greg Troxel wrote Ilpo Järvinen lt; ilpo.jarvinen@ gt; writes: It's not just about paved/unpaved. What I mean that there are two kinds of not paved trails through forest. Those which come with man applied surface, even if we tag them as surface=unpaved (typically surface=fine_gravel

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Greg Troxel wrote: Ilpo Järvinen ilpo.jarvi...@helsinki.fi writes: It's not just about paved/unpaved. What I mean that there are two kinds of not paved trails through forest. Those which come with man applied surface, even if we tag them as surface=unpaved

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:58 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:59 PM, geow ks...@web.de wrote: multi-use-path Highway=cycle-ped_path Done! Lets render it with purple dots (blue+red). Or we could just render it as a sidewalk, as that is what

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 07.08.2015 um 09:50 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com: And their rules on =trunk through =secondary definitions are different than most other countries mapped in OSM because they follow Japanese mapping convention where the legal name /shield designation of the road

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread geow
quote author=quot;johnwquot; The difference between a cycleway, a footway, and a trail can be access rules, but mostly its *the built condition of the way* and that *will* vary from a 1st world to 3rd would country - and from continent to continent.lt;/quote Therefore proper tags on the

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, geow wrote: quote author=quot;johnwquot; The difference between a cycleway, a footway, and a trail can be access rules, but mostly its *the built condition of the way* and that *will* vary from a 1st world to 3rd would country - and from continent to continent.lt;/quote

Re: [Tagging] Contact:* prefix

2015-08-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 07.08.2015 um 00:38 schrieb Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: For some tag developments i can see the benefits, but I'm struggling with this one I'm afraid. +1 while in the addr:-namespace all keys are actually address components, this can be contested for the

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:59 PM, geow ks...@web.de wrote: Rendering should never rely on assumptions but on physical values Theres no *physical* value separating a primary, secondary, tertiary, unclassified, or service road. I can find one of each that the exact same

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:59 PM, geow ks...@web.de wrote: multi-use-path Highway=cycle-ped_path Done! Lets render it with purple dots (blue+red). Or we could just render it as a sidewalk, as that is what it is. A Sidewalk. Highway=footway+footway=sidewalk. Which

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread johnw
On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: what is this legal name/ shield designation about, the relative importance of the highway as a connection in the road network? Or something else like who maintains the road (typically more politics and history

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 07.08.2015 um 13:05 schrieb Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com: So if it's a 2m paved path with pedestrians and cyclists allowed, you call it highway=cycleway if it's got a blue/white sign, and highway=path+various other tags if it's got a

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 07.08.2015 um 01:15 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen ilpo.jarvi...@helsinki.fi: unpaved paths is actually built-up recretional route whereas the others are just tiny, some even faintly visible, forest trails. there are the tags width, trail visibility and maybe others, that

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread johnw
On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: For Belgium we follow this convention: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Eimai/Belgian_Roads#Paths http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Eimai/Belgian_Roads#Paths It's full of highway=path examples. You'll give us

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 07.08.2015 um 01:15 schrieb Ilpo Järvinen ilpo.jarvi...@helsinki.fi: unpaved paths is actually built-up recretional route whereas the others are just tiny, some even faintly visible, forest trails. there are the tags width, trail

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Richard Mann
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: For Belgium we follow this convention: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Eimai/Belgian_Roads#Paths It's full of highway=path examples. You'll give us a lot of work if we have to revisit and retag them all. :-) So

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Andy Townsend
‎Whilst hstore will make keys available, it won't make the SQL to use a plethora of new keys any less horrible. The code to handle certain highway=path as either cycleways and footways is more convoluted than it would otherwise be already. Something like lua processing of keys at import would

Re: [Tagging] oil binding agent?

2015-08-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Note the subtle spelling difference between absorption and adsorption: http://www.integrityabsorbents.com/content/abvsad.php ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

2015-08-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 07.08.2015 um 13:05 schrieb Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com: I'd also note that there are a lot more surface values that just paved/unpaved nowadays - which kinda indicates the problem with relying on subkeys: their values tend to get more

Re: [Tagging] oil binding agent?

2015-08-07 Thread John Willis
So if it swells less than 50%, it is adsobent. I learned a new word today. Javbw On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Note the subtle spelling difference between absorption and adsorption: http://www.integrityabsorbents.com/content/abvsad.php