Re: [Tagging] New access key for Segway needed

2017-03-09 Thread Dave Swarthout
wow, that's a good question. Wikipedia classifies a Segway device as a personal_transporter and that would seem to be a good place to start. But how to avoid confusion with wheelchairs and the like? I like gyropode even more. The English Wikipedia doesn't contain that term as yet but the French se

[Tagging] New access key for Segway needed

2017-03-09 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Hello, the center of my beautiful city of Prague has been marked in a large scale recently by new road signs stating that use of Segway PT and similar devices is prohibited there. (Search google - images for "zákaz segway".) I guess that some would like to map these. The discussion is here htt

Re: [Tagging] Review of wiki documentation for is_in

2017-03-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/09/2017 10:55 PM, Andrew Hain wrote: > The documentation for is_in [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in] > has accreted various additions from multiple hands that do not always > correspond to the Nominatim advice > [https://www.mail-archive.com/talk@openstreetmap.org/msg561

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
We already have an "amenity=post_office" tag. I note that the wiki page for that tag includes an operator subtag, for if the post office is operated by a private company rather than a government agency. The United States Postal Service is quasi-governmental; the US Constitution calls for its e

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread Warin
In this case I would tag it "office=courier" with the description "An office where goods are sent/received". The tag 'operator' can be used to specify the firm. I would not use amenity. On 10-Mar-17 01:26 AM, muzirian wrote: By courier I meant a place where you can sent and receive parcels and

Re: [Tagging] simple 3D buildings, proposed redefinition of building:levels and building:min_level for building:part

2017-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9 Mar 2017, at 19:39, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > I believe you are mistaken here. you are of course right. (It would have worked for all cases I had in mind/mapped so far, but it won't work in general). Insisting on the original definition isn't likely an option, is it?

[Tagging] Review of wiki documentation for is_in

2017-03-09 Thread Andrew Hain
The documentation for is_in [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in] has accreted various additions from multiple hands that do not always correspond to the Nominatim advice [https://www.mail-archive.com/talk@openstreetmap.org/msg56183.html]. Could we thrash out something that represents

Re: [Tagging] NEW APPROACH : Feature Proposal tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-09 Thread Warin
On 09-Mar-17 10:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-03-07 16:27 GMT+01:00 Thilo Haug >: Is there any "basic info" I should read ? frankly I don't know. The wiki is so huge, nobody has ever read it completely ;-) There are a some references to tagging here: ht

Re: [Tagging] simple 3D buildings, proposed redefinition of building:levels and building:min_level for building:part

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Martin, Am 09.03.2017 um 19:39 schrieb Tobias Knerr: > Your proposed change would, therefore, make data mapped using these keys > mostly useless due to the unresolvable ambiguity. In my opinion, that > kind of cost is not worth it. I oppose the proposed change for exactly the same reasons. Red

Re: [Tagging] simple 3D buildings, proposed redefinition of building:levels and building:min_level for building:part

2017-03-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 08.03.2017 18:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: building:levels - building:min_level < 0 yes: new no: old I believe you are mistaken here. Consider the following example: building:levels = 2 building:min_level = 1 According to the Simple 3D Buildings standard, this means that there is a buil

Re: [Tagging] Discouraging frequency=* on power lines and cables

2017-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi David, Am 09.03.2017 um 06:35 schrieb David Marchal: >> Le 8 mars 2017 à 23:04, Michael Reichert a écrit : >> >> Please keep OSM simple. I don't want to add a power route relation on >> every tiny minor distribution line/cable (230 V). >> > Totally agree with that. I don’t understand the usage

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9 Mar 2017, at 15:38, muzirian wrote: > > Also people dont usually refer these private facilities as post office +1, and please shorten the quoted text, cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@ope

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread muzirian
post office are used for a facility used offered by state or national postal system, and they usually offer more services than just sending/receiving post. wikipedia's explanation is better i think.People On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Paul Johnson wrote: > OK, why not amenity=post_office, operator

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread muzirian
Also people dont usually refer these private facilities as post offices.So better not to mix and cause confusion. On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Paul Johnson wrote: > OK, why not amenity=post_office, operator=*? > > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:26 AM, muzirian > wrote: > >> By courier I meant a place

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread muzirian
Couriers do offer pickup and drop at home, but as you said they have offices too, also there are places where pickup/drop service area is limited and people have to go to these offices for sending/receiving. On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > At least some courier

Re: [Tagging] Discouraging frequency=* on power lines and cables

2017-03-09 Thread Jherome Miguel
Though busy, I will share my opinion on tagging frequency on power lines, and also the use of power route relations On Mar 9, 2017 5:40 PM, "François Lacombe" wrote: Hi David, 2017-03-09 6:35 GMT+01:00 David Marchal : > > > Le 8 mars 2017 à 23:04, Michael Reichert a écrit : > > > > Please kee

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
OK, why not amenity=post_office, operator=*? On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:26 AM, muzirian wrote: > By courier I meant a place where you can sent and receive parcels and > mail, like post office. > > On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 08-Mar-17 08:42 PM, muzirian

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread muzirian
courier can be a person or a company which offers such service, and companies like dhl,tnt,fedex have facilities/offices which have location, and im trying to map them. On Thursday, March 9, 2017, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Are you trying to map the location of an office of a courier service? > C

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread muzirian
By courier I meant a place where you can sent and receive parcels and mail, like post office. On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08-Mar-17 08:42 PM, muzirian wrote: > >> A company that transports commercial packages and documents. >> >> https://wiki.openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] NEW APPROACH : Feature Proposal tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-07 16:27 GMT+01:00 Thilo Haug : > Is there any "basic info" I should read ? frankly I don't know. The wiki is so huge, nobody has ever read it completely ;-) There are a some references to tagging here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like https://wiki.openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] Positioning motorway exits

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 09.03.2017 11:15, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Does anybody mind if I take a crack at the whole cloverleaf and upload a > > changeset? This kind of junction is pretty bog standard for Oklahoma > > and I'm familiar enough with EU markings to not

Re: [Tagging] simple 3D buildings, proposed redefinition of building:levels and building:min_level for building:part

2017-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-09 6:04 GMT+01:00 Eugene Alvin Villar : > I'm not now commenting on whether the proposal is good or not, but other > redefinition proposals have been shot down for numbers much less than the > number given in the argument above. Yes, it is not completely ignorable, but compare it to the

Re: [Tagging] Positioning motorway exits

2017-03-09 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 08.03.2017 19:40, Johan C wrote: 'Add a highway =*motorway_junction* tag at each node Node along a highway with named or numbered junctions where a driver can legally exit'. Haven't investiga

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Thu, 2017-03-09 at 10:33 +1100, Warin wrote: > > At least some courier firms have offices where you can go to; > > send things - saves waiting for a courier to arrive at "some time" > > during the day. > > pick something up .. when you hav

Re: [Tagging] Positioning motorway exits

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Does anybody mind if I take a crack at the whole cloverleaf and upload a changeset? This kind of junction is pretty bog standard for Oklahoma and I'm familiar enough with EU markings to not get it completely worng. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openst

Re: [Tagging] Discouraging frequency=* on power lines and cables

2017-03-09 Thread François Lacombe
Hi David, 2017-03-09 6:35 GMT+01:00 David Marchal : > > > Le 8 mars 2017 à 23:04, Michael Reichert a écrit : > > > > Please keep OSM simple. I don't want to add a power route relation on > > every tiny minor distribution line/cable (230 V). > > > Totally agree with that. I don’t understand the u