[Tagging] unused tags and properties

2019-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
A few people continue to add unused tags and properties to feature definitions, e.g. looking at the page for tourism=guesthouse, which is quite long in the meantime, you can find "proposed" values with names like "fridge" "stove" "drying:room" "dinner" which all hardly reach a 2 digit number of

Re: [Tagging] unused tags and properties

2019-04-26 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
I agree. The wiki is a point of entry for inexperienced contributors and should therefore document established practices rather than serve as a way to make marginal ideas appear established. That said, the subjectivity of what constitutes "established practices" guarantees controversy...

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Apr 2019, at 11:52, Michael Brandtner via Tagging > wrote: > > I’m against the tag baby_changing_table. As I have already written, > changing_table is unambiguous and the most common word for this thing. No > need for such a long key. I’m not insisting, but I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-26 Thread Valor Naram
I now splited the table into two parts so you can see how the wiki will look like (not equal)Seehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/baby_changing_tables#Tagging Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing tableFrom: Valor Naram

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Landcover barren (second time)

2019-04-26 Thread Lorenzo Stucchi
Hi everyone, after some comments in which we found that there was a misunderstanding in the definition, we rewrote partially it to be more clear, also with some images. So we start a new vote phase, here the new link

Re: [Tagging] Extremely complicated conditional values

2019-04-26 Thread Richard
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 02:06:27PM +0200, Tobias Zwick wrote: > Even shorter, because if there are conflicting rules in the conditional, the > last one is taken, says the wiki. (Not sure if this is really implemented in > applications that work with that data though): just wondering, does

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:natural=mesa and Tag:natural=butte

2019-04-26 Thread Warin
On 26/04/19 11:48, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I have created 2 proposal pages for natural=mesa and natural=butte A mesa is defined as "A flat-topped elevated landform surrounded by cliffs". A mesa may also be known as a table or tableland, potrero or tepui. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:mesa

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-26 Thread Valor Naram
I've already made a suggestion to split the wiki pages into two parts:The first one describes the key "changing_table" as a replacement for "diaper". This section will compare the old tagging with the new tagging without introducing new subkeys.The second one describes the extensions (adding of

Re: [Tagging] Tag for a plateau or tableland?

2019-04-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 5:13 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 7:. > >> I was wondering about leaving them all under peak? >> >> natural=peak >> peak=hill/mountain/plateau/butte/mesa >> >> Would that work? >> > > A peak is well defined as the local high point. A Mesa or butte

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:natural=mesa and Tag:natural=butte

2019-04-26 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 26 April 2019, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I have created 2 proposal pages for natural=mesa and natural=butte > > A mesa is defined as "A flat-topped elevated landform surrounded by > cliffs". A mesa may also be known as a table or tableland, potrero or > tepui. See

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

2019-04-26 Thread pbnoxious
I think the whole problem cannot be solved in general as it depends from case to case. A nice example of where the clear distinction between "natural river" and "artificial canal" is hard to tell is the river Altmühl: Its most downstream part has been built into a canal, which later leaves the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:natural=mesa and Tag:natural=butte

2019-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Apr 2019, at 07:06, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Flat topped area with sudden elevation, wider or longer than it is high > but horizontal dimension less than 1.6 km. or maybe 1.609344 kilometers? Seriously, if we use a definition based on imperial

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-26 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I’m against the tag baby_changing_table. As I have already written, changing_table is unambiguous and the most common word for this thing. No need for such a long key. Am Donnerstag, April 25, 2019, 10:52 PM schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2019, at 01:49, marc

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

2019-04-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Volker Schmidt wrote: > Going back to the original example, I would say, not only the lock but > the entire cut, in particular way > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24335 > should be tagged as waterway=canal. This scheme applies to most river-lock > arrangements, the "cuts" are nearly

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25 Apr 2019, 23:49 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > Communities have drawn together to keep a bank, a supermarket and a garage > going locally. They have also drawn together to keep a doctor. > They don't draw together for a church. > Depends on a community. The last one certainly is not true for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

2019-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Apr 2019, at 04:08, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Then we would need to retag all of the other "camp_site=camp_pitch" > objects yes, my suggestion would be to retag all* 7000 camp_site=camp_pitch to a pitch tag and keep the camp_site values that refer to

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-26 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:47 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 25 Apr 2019, 23:49 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: >> Communities have drawn together to keep a bank, a supermarket and a garage >> going locally. They have also drawn together to keep a doctor. >> They don't draw together for a church. > >

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

2019-04-26 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:44 AM Richard Fairhurst wrote: > On some of the larger American river navigations the lock structures are > built right within the main river channel - such as this new $3bn (!) lock > on the Ohio River: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmsted_Locks_and_Dam - so > similar