Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:06 AM Peter Neale via Tagging wrote: > Where I live, we have an extensive network of non-segregated shared Foot / > Cycle paths, known locally as "Redways" (and they are surfaced in red > asphalt). They have thin metal bollards at all junctions with roads. I >

Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 17:36, Kevin Kenny wrote: > I tag them `bollard=removable` as at > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6504546120 - have I erred? > The problem is removble by whom? I would consider the padlocked variety as fixed (for the normal end user). I would interpret "removable" as:

Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Where I live, we have an extensive network of non-segregated shared Foot / Cycle paths, known locally as "Redways" (and they are surfaced in red asphalt).  They have thin metal bollards at all junctions with roads.  I think their purposes are: 1.  to warn cyclists to give way before crossing

Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> “ I would interpret "removable" as: the end user can remove it, but has to accept a time delay” Are there such bollards? I can’t imagine that bollards are ever removable by the general public, though you can probably request that the bollard be removed several days in advance for a special

Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 18 feb 2020, alle ore 03:05, Jonathon Rossi ha > scritto: > > I can't think of a bollard here where the general public can remove/fold it, > otherwise what does it achieve? I have seen many removable bollards, both in Germany and Italy, which weren’t locked

Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Jonathon Rossi
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 7:49 AM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > “ I would interpret "removable" as: the end user can remove it, but has > to accept a time delay” > > Are there such bollards? I can’t imagine that bollards are ever removable > by the general public, though you can probably request

Re: [Tagging] (Un)removable Bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Jonathon Rossi
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 5:02 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Il giorno 18 feb 2020, alle ore 03:05, Jonathon Rossi < > j...@jonorossi.com> ha scritto: > > > > I can't think of a bollard here where the general public can remove/fold > it, otherwise what does it achieve? > > I have seen many

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Philip Barnes
Often used to make residential streets into deadends to prevent rat-running, to enforce vehicle bans, to prevent delivery vehicles parking on the sidewalk instead of the delivery bay. In most cases bollards are fixed, there is usually only one or two removable bollards to create a gap wide

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

2020-02-17 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> For 2) What is the best way to proceed? Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag. - Joseph Eisenberg On 2/17/20, European Water Project wrote: > Tomorrow is the last day of voting. The proposal has positive support .. > 10 + and 2 Abs > > There are two comments which are worth

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 16. Feb. 2020 um 21:54 Uhr schrieb ET Commands : > > My spelling check does not like "unremovable" but instead suggests > "irremovable." However, if I want to be nit-picky, all bollards are > ultimately removable, so maybe more appropriate values would be > "retractable" and

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 16. Feb. 2020 um 22:52 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > Umm... > > Bollards are there to protect people. > they might be there to protect people, but not in all instances, their purpose is to either physically prevent or at least signal to vehicles wider than x to pass,

Re: [Tagging] Horse yards / corrals

2020-02-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 17 feb 2020, alle ore 08:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick > ha scritto: > > > The other spot that this would apply to is yards at meatworks, sale yards & > similar. > > Any thoughts? I agree we could need a tag for a generic animal enclosure, which could be used in

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-17 Thread Volker Schmidt
Sorry to be insistent. If we create more bollard attributes, we should keep in mind that the relevant bollard properties from a car drivers point of views are very different than those of a cyclist or of a blind person may consider relevant. *Flexibility*: a soft flexible bollard will not do

Re: [Tagging] Horse yards / corrals

2020-02-17 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Horse paddocks (fenced areas which are not pasture) are sometimes tagged with landuse=animal_keeping especially in Germany. That is the most common use of landuse=animal_keeping - but I agree that the value of that tag sounds strange to native English speakers. Re: "that seems more involved with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

2020-02-17 Thread European Water Project
Hi Joseph, Understood. I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote finishes tomorrow. Best regards, Stuart On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > For 2) What is the best way to proceed? > > Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.