Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread stevea
We have a spot on the ocean shore, right at (below, at sea level) the entrance to a state park, in an urban area: it's known locally as "the toilet bowl" and it's node/3370641047. It's tagged hazard=yes (best I could do at the time, I suppose; I tagged it in 2015) and "dangerous area, no

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 15:14, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > "I'd like to swim in a small pool with a waterfall". > Good spot for one of your hazard tags! We have Natural Bridge nearby

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
I'm giving away all my favourite spots here but both of these the stream is mapped a a way, and has the pool under the waterfall mapped as an area, so you can determine pools under a waterfall based on the natural=water area with one of the nodes being a waterway=waterfall node.

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
That doesn't work if the river/stream is modeled as a way only. Also, it assumes that every waterfall has a plunge pool - I'm not sure that's the case. On Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 12:25 AM Andrew Harvey wrote: > Mind you, you do need any of these tags to determine that. You can > automatically

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
Mind you, you do need any of these tags to determine that. You can automatically measure natural=water size where the way contains a waterfall node. On Thu, 24 Dec 2020, 4:14 pm Brian M. Sperlongano, wrote: > I could see value in tagging them separately. I.e. "I'd like to swim in a > small

Re: [Tagging] Cartpath RFC

2020-12-23 Thread stevea via Tagging
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Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I could see value in tagging them separately. I.e. "I'd like to swim in a small pool with a waterfall". On Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 12:10 AM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 10:26, Paul Allen wrote: > >> >> Isn't that a plunge pool? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plunge_pool >> I

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread stevea
On North America's west coast and in "the West" (ern states of the USA), I've heard "hole" used for both fishing spots and swimming spots in creeks, streams and rivers (and "pools," what I often see called a "thickening" of the river, such as a calmer not-quite-eddy off to one side that might

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 1:08 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 17:28, Kevin Kenny wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 7:17 AM Paul Allen wrote: >> >> British anglers must be different from American ones. Most fishermen that >> I know don't want their favorite fishing holes to be

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 09:00, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 1:25 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > I've had one German solemnly assure me that anything labeled a 'creek' in > English is a minor watercourse, and challenge why I was mapping a riverbank > for Schoharie Creek. > Thanks,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:interpolation on closed ways and nodes

2020-12-23 Thread ipswichmapper--- via Tagging
It says in the proposal the the vertical bar is an alternative. You can still use hypens, however vertical bar is more explicit. With a addr:range however hypens should be enough. -- 23 Dec 2020, 22:59 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > As I understand, it would mean that 40-48 range would need

Re: [Tagging] Fuzzy areas again: should we have them or not?

2020-12-23 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi all, I'll reply to this as me since the DWG's ticketing system was cc:ed on this mail and we can't reply from there because the messages will bounce. On 21/12/2020 15:42, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 8:01 AM Frederik Ramm > wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:interpolation on closed ways and nodes

2020-12-23 Thread ipswichmapper--- via Tagging
Hello everyone, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/addr:range Here is the updated page. There may be some mistakes / it may not be completely done yet, but it gives a rough overview of addr:range. Thanks, IpswichMapper-- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox:

Re: [Tagging] Fuzzy areas again: should we have them or not?

2020-12-23 Thread stevea
On Dec 23, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Martin Søndergaard wrote: > While some might not agree with the tone of Anders, I do think his > "enthusiasm" has resulted in the most interesting discussion I have seen on > this list yet. And I want to give a few of my thoughts as well. Bullseye. > On Tue, 22

Re: [Tagging] Fuzzy areas again: should we have them or not?

2020-12-23 Thread Snusmumriken
On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 09:55 -0800, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > 3) Archipelagos are partially cultural concepts but most often > represent island groups which are close together and share a > geological origin, as well as a human-created name. In OpenStreetMap > they are mapped as multipolygon

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

2020-12-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 18:04, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > It seems like the convention for rivers is that the river's continuity > (and name) are carried with the waterway=river ways and not the area > polygons that cover the width of the river (regardless of whether you use > the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:interpolation on closed ways and nodes

2020-12-23 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:05:10PM +0100, ipswichmapper--- via Tagging wrote: > Okay. In this case I can rename to proposal page to "addr:range". > > This new tag: > > - applies to nodes and closed ways that have addr:housenumber > - "addr:range=n" means every nth house is counted in a range > -

Re: [Tagging] Cartpath RFC

2020-12-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 08:40, Peter Elderson wrote: > It's not about an example, it's about using a general term for a specific > type. > When I saw "cartpath" in the subject, my first thought was NOT golf carts. My first thought was of a two-wheeled vehicle pulled by one or two horses. Around