Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledgeofthe law?

2009-12-17 Thread Dave F.
Mike Harris wrote: Mike Harris Well, I'm always up for a challenge! But I'm talking about paths across fields with crops - ever tried biking through a maize (US: corn) field - or over a ploughed field - or through bracken - and after about 50 stiles even the keenest biker might get a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-17 Thread Dave F.
Liz wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Dave F. wrote: a cycleway is a way which is free of bicycle obstructions and that is not implicit in the path at all. I disagree. Where a cycleway crosses a vehicular road I would expect to see cycle barriers to either slow down or preferably

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Anthony wrote: For example, just one example, here in Florida bicycles are allowed to use certain roadways (most roadways, in fact, but I'm too lazy to look up the exact law right this second). I'm not sure that's a universal law, applicable everyone in the world. Unless Florida is somehow

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-17 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: highway=cycleway only used for well-engineered public/permanant cycle tracks (ie could you safely do 20kph on it) ??? It's only a cycleway only if it's signed or documented as a cycleway. Your logic is flawed: Cycle

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Anthony wrote: For example, just one example, here in Florida bicycles are allowed to use certain roadways (most roadways, in fact, but I'm too lazy to

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Liz wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Paul Johnson wrote: Cyclists aren't allowed on most forest service trails, and those are posted horse=no, bicycle=no, foot=yes. Really, what's wrong with the bicycle=destination idea I suggested for navigation purposes, without trying to supersede common

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
David Calder wrote: As a travelling cyclist I need to know if I am going to be able to take a particular road or not before I get there. I know bicycles are not permitted on motorways/autobahns/autovias etc so I suspect that it is implied that bicycle=no on roads designated as such on the

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Bennett wrote: (It does make me think that *signed* bicycle prohibitions should be tagged differently from *statutory* bicycle prohibitions, though. As the OP said, you really don't want to ignore a sign like that.) Unless your local jurisdiction is violating international law, there is

[Tagging] Post_Box and addr:* nodes

2009-12-17 Thread Martin Fossdal Guttesen
Hi I am about to add all the post boxes in my country by hand (there are only 115 of them) but i dont know if or how i should tag the addres where the box is, every post box has an address with an street name and an number i have imported all the house addressses before and then there is

Re: [Tagging] More cycleway=* values needed

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: We considered proposing: cycleway=curb which is short, but as someone pointed out, you don't actually ride the bike on the curb like you do the track or the lane. Alternatively we could use: cycleway=curb_delimited I'm against this. If it's seperated

Re: [Tagging] Time based access restrictions (was: bicycle=no)

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Bennett wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Ambiguous. Paris has a far different idea about business hours than New York, which has a different idea than Salem, and so on. Even within the same geopolitical region, for example, business

Re: [Tagging] Post_Box and addr:* nodes

2009-12-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Martin Fossdal Guttesen mgutte...@hotmail.com wrote: but i dont know if or how i should tag the addres where the box is, every post box has an address with an street name and an number If the post box has an address, I'd suggest tagging the post box with its

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: In terms of 2), there are maybe four categories: 1) High quality bike paths: wide, smooth asphalt, gentle corners, no kerbs. 2) Lower quality paths: concrete, or narrow, or with bumps and kerbs and stuff 3) Unsealed

Re: [Tagging] tagging Greenways (was: Re: [OSM-talk] Good routing vs legal routing (was: Path vsfootwayvs cycleway vs...))

2009-12-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Thanks Paul, I did answer, but am saving it in my drafts folder sent it to others for peer review 1st. Cheers, Sam Vekemans Across Canada Trails On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Sam Vekemans wrote: Where the only way i know to map it is to use a