Re: [Tagging] airport vs. aerodrome
2011/2/19 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org: On 02/15/2011 07:02 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Have a look here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.16lon=-88.536zoom=10layers=M could you tell which are the more important ones? Not at first glance I guess. Why not map the airports in greater detail? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.15526lon=-97.47207zoom=16layers=M is an example of a municipal airport more completely mapped. Of course we should map everything in ultimate detail, and of course we could preprocess this data once it is at a certain level of completeness to determine which are the bigger airports. But this doesn't mean IMHO that this is the only way and that there is not good reasons to also refine the simple structure (airport node or basic airport tags) at least to make a distinction for the most important ones (those where usual people normally take off when they go on a trip). cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes
On 02/19/2011 06:24 PM, Paul Norman wrote: The Massey Tunnel is currently tagged with oneway=no on the reversible section and through the tunnel itself. For the reversible sections (that lead up to the tunnel) they really alternate between oneway=-1, oneway=yes and access=no. For the two parallel tunnels themselves they alternate between oneway=yes and oneway=no. The approaches are either oneway=yes or access=no, though, depending on the signals. I'm not sure what the solution is, but oneway=reversible isn't a special case of oneway=yes so it would break existing data consumers. I'm not sure any way that reverses based on traffic signals really qualifies as oneway=yes, for that reason. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes
On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 2/19/2011 7:24 PM, Paul Norman wrote: The Massey Tunnel is currently tagged with oneway=no on the reversible section and through the tunnel itself. For the reversible sections (that lead up to the tunnel) they really alternate between oneway=-1, oneway=yes and access=no. For the two parallel tunnels themselves they alternate between oneway=yes and oneway=no. I'm not sure what the solution is, but oneway=reversible isn't a special case of oneway=yes so it would break existing data consumers. Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people the wrong way down a one-way highway? This whole question suggests that we're somehow responsible for data consumers paying more attention to their navigation than what's out their windshield, which is an entirely specious argument for obvious reasons. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes
On 2/20/11 8:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people the wrong way down a one-way highway? This whole question suggests that we're somehow responsible for data consumers paying more attention to their navigation than what's out their windshield, which is an entirely specious argument for obvious reasons. well, on the other hand, GPS users have been known to sue when the GPS led them to do stupid things. irrespective of whether the mythical we are responsible, the lawsuit still has to be defended. so i suggest thinking it through and considering the situation carefully. richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Counterflow Lanes
On 2/20/2011 9:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/20/11 8:51 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 02/19/2011 08:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Don't we want to break existing consumers if they might route people the wrong way down a one-way highway? This whole question suggests that we're somehow responsible for data consumers paying more attention to their navigation than what's out their windshield, which is an entirely specious argument for obvious reasons. well, on the other hand, GPS users have been known to sue when the GPS led them to do stupid things. irrespective of whether the mythical we are responsible, the lawsuit still has to be defended. so i suggest thinking it through and considering the situation carefully. It has nothing to do with liability. It's simply good practice to give someone a route they can follow at all times unless they specify details. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging