[Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-21 Thread Mihkel Rämmel
If i'm not wrong then there seems to be no tag for shop that is specialised
in selling (and repairing) garden and forest machinery (lawnmovers,
chainsaws, trimming machines, etc.) and lightweight garden/forest tools like
saws, shovels, axes, etc. Can anyone suggest something better than
shop=garden_and_forest_machinery . I would make a proper proposal for it ,
but first I would like to have an understandable name under what to make
that proposal.

Mihkel
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Re: [Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-21 Thread Sander Deryckere
Isn't power equipment a general name for that? When I search google images
for it, I get pretty right images.

http://www.google.be/search?um=1hl=nlrlz=1G1GGLQ_ENZZ273biw=1600bih=780tbm=ischsa=1q=%22power+equipment%22+shopoq=%22power+equipment%22+shopaq=faqi=aql=gs_sm=egs_upl=87865l90688l0l2l2l0l0l0l0l256l399l0.1.1l2

regards,
Sander

2011/6/21 Mihkel Rämmel r...@hot.ee

 If i'm not wrong then there seems to be no tag for shop that is specialised
 in selling (and repairing) garden and forest machinery (lawnmovers,
 chainsaws, trimming machines, etc.) and lightweight garden/forest tools like
 saws, shovels, axes, etc. Can anyone suggest something better than
 shop=garden_and_forest_machinery . I would make a proper proposal for it ,
 but first I would like to have an understandable name under what to make
 that proposal.

 Mihkel

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Re: [Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-21 Thread Clifford Snow
It's lawn and garden in the US.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Mihkel Rämmel r...@hot.ee wrote:

 If i'm not wrong then there seems to be no tag for shop that is specialised
 in selling (and repairing) garden and forest machinery (lawnmovers,
 chainsaws, trimming machines, etc.) and lightweight garden/forest tools like
 saws, shovels, axes, etc. Can anyone suggest something better than
 shop=garden_and_forest_machinery . I would make a proper proposal for it ,
 but first I would like to have an understandable name under what to make
 that proposal.

 Mihkel

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-21 Thread Josh Doe
This proposal has been around for a while, but I can't seem to find any RFC
message in the archives.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb

I removed the yes and no values, because I couldn't see any utility, instead
offering the unknown value. One question remaining for me is whether to
allow for heights, either directly using the kerb=* key or perhaps in a
subkey like kerb:height=*.

All feedback is welcome.

Thanks,
-Josh
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Re: [Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-21 Thread John F. Eldredge


Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com wrote:

 Isn't power equipment a general name for that? When I search google
 images
 for it, I get pretty right images.
 
 http://www.google.be/search?um=1hl=nlrlz=1G1GGLQ_ENZZ273biw=1600bih=780tbm=ischsa=1q=%22power+equipment%22+shopoq=%22power+equipment%22+shopaq=faqi=aql=gs_sm=egs_upl=87865l90688l0l2l2l0l0l0l0l256l399l0.1.1l2
 
 regards,
 Sander
 
 2011/6/21 Mihkel Rämmel r...@hot.ee
 
  If i'm not wrong then there seems to be no tag for shop that is
 specialised
  in selling (and repairing) garden and forest machinery (lawnmovers,
  chainsaws, trimming machines, etc.) and lightweight garden/forest
 tools like
  saws, shovels, axes, etc. Can anyone suggest something better than
  shop=garden_and_forest_machinery . I would make a proper proposal
 for it ,
  but first I would like to have an understandable name under what to
 make
  that proposal.
 
  Mihkel

Power equipment would include all types of powered equipment, such as 
construction equipment, not just the specified garden and forest equipment, 
while excluding muscle-powered tools such as shovels.

-- 
John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to 
think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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Re: [Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Mihkel Rämmel r...@hot.ee wrote:
 If i'm not wrong then there seems to be no tag for shop that is specialised
 in selling (and repairing) garden and forest machinery (lawnmovers,
 chainsaws, trimming machines, etc.) and lightweight garden/forest tools like
 saws, shovels, axes, etc. Can anyone suggest something better than
 shop=garden_and_forest_machinery . I would make a proper proposal for it ,
 but first I would like to have an understandable name under what to make
 that proposal.

Sounds pretty niche. If we don't want thousands of specific, niche
tags, we need to group. Maybe shop=machinery, machinery=garden;forest

I'm just trying to picture how a renderer would cope with so many
incredibly specific tags. Can you imagine a thousand different icons?
Would they even be recognisable?

Steve

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Kerb

2011-06-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote:
 All feedback is welcome.

One problem I see with these kinds of proposals is that they map very
well to a particular jurisdiction or standard, but will be very hard
to apply elsewhere. Perhaps the distinction of 3cm, =3cm, 3cm is
very common somewhere - but what would you do in an area where the
standard distinction is 2.5cm? Or 4cm? Go and measure every kerb?

So maybe it's better to divide it into two halves: in one part, talk
about the functional aspects (flat, flush, can roll over etc). In
another part, map those functional distinctions onto physical ranges
on a regional basis (in the eastern states of the US, flush means
...).

Alternatively, just leave the heights as indicative - but make it
clear we map on a functional basis.

Also is your table missing a way to tag kerbs between 3cm and 16cm?
(And lastly, you have 0.03cm instead of 0.03m in one place)

Steve

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Re: [Tagging] Missing only_u_turn?

2011-06-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't get it. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1630619/history
 is the only one you've added - can you really not continue east on

Google Streetview wasn't very enlightening either - looks like a
bog-standard intersection to me.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enll=33.916369,-117.312849spn=0.004737,0.022359sll=55.594595,-4.495554sspn=0.014283,0.028367radius=15000.00z=16layer=ccbll=33.916569,-117.313959panoid=HESRYHu68aw92TGXYokcvwcbp=11,124.13,,0,7.6

The u-turn only situations I can think of:
- a divided highway, where the u-turn lane is represented as a oneway,
no relation required)
- a dead end road, where the u-turn is self-explanatory
- maybe some weirdo situation where one direction of a two-way road
meets an intersection, and the only direction of travel is a u-turn.
Again, separating directions of travel and using oneway=yes will
probably cover most cases?

Any other examples?

Steve

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