Re: [Tagging] traffic lights

2011-09-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/9/5 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
 On 09/03/2011 07:30 AM, sergio sevillano wrote:

 are we mapping reality or for the router ?
 The question is at what resolution are we mapping?


IMHO we should try to map at the highest possible resolution (our db
has a ~1cm limit for coordinate precision, our zoom 18 is approx.
1:1500). Lower resolution data can generally be derived from the
higher resolution data.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] A name for stony ground?

2011-09-05 Thread Johan Jönsson
Bryce Nesbitt bryce2@... writes:
 
 The http://www.mrlc.gov/
 Is a partnership of:
 federal and state partner
   agencies interested in assisting in either the population of
   the Landsat database or collaboration in developing the Land
   Cover database.
 
 
 Which have all agreed on common landcover descriptions, including a
 code feature for stony ground.
 

A interesting line-up one must say.
Here is the latest (2001) definition of the different classes:
http://www.epa.gov/mrlc/definitions.html#2001

They have shown a distinct movement from land use-like classes to more physical
definitions.

The old Bare_Rock/Sand/Clay have been replaced by the simpler barren_land.

!!This could be an alternative approach to the tag-name. Use vegetated or
barren as tags.

Maybe I was to specific when looking/and failing to find a tag for all land of
bare rock (stony ground). The vegetated/barren couple could be better.

Anyone got any objections on barren, do it have other meanings?
/Johan Jönsson



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Re: [Tagging] A name for stony ground?

2011-09-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/9/5 Johan Jönsson joha...@goteborg.cc:
 They have shown a distinct movement from land use-like classes to more 
 physical
 definitions.

 The old Bare_Rock/Sand/Clay have been replaced by the simpler barren_land.

 !!This could be an alternative approach to the tag-name. Use vegetated or
 barren as tags.

 Maybe I was to specific when looking/and failing to find a tag for all land of
 bare rock (stony ground). The vegetated/barren couple could be better.


But you have to see how they define it. The US use barren for
Generally, vegetation accounts for less than 15% of total cover. as
opposed to the FAO that sets 4% as the limit for vegetated.


cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] traffic lights

2011-09-05 Thread Stephen Hope
I have no problem with some people just mapping it has traffic
lights and others adding more detail, if they feel a need for it.
Most people are never going to need (or have the time/knowledge to
enter) more than there are lights here, but that doesn't mean we
shouldn't have the option for more. But if the only knowledge I have
is there are lights here, I'd rather be able to mark that than have
to fake up some light pole positions or leave it without.

Having said that, I do have some questions about marking in detail

Should we use different tags for this whole intersections has lights
and there are lights in this exact spot. My first instinct is to say
yes, so that data users can easily search for one or the other.  You
could say that any lights not on a way are one, and lights on a way
are the other, but what about overhead signals that hang over the
centre of the way/intersection?

Is there a problem with marking an intersection both ways?

Should we mark where the pole is, or where the lights are?  Many of
our traffic lights hang over the road, with the pole base off to one
side.

Should we be somehow marking which ways the various signals control?
The same pole pole can have signals facing different directions, or
just one.


Stephen

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