Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=bare_rock

2012-07-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/7/2 Martin Vonwald (Imagic) :
> Am 02.07.2012 um 22:09 schrieb sabas88 :
>> I'd opt for landcover system.
> +1 for landcover. IMO the tag natural should not be used for areas (yes, I 
> know, currently it is used often for areas).


I think it is fine to use natural for areas (the very most of over 8
million features tagged with natural=* are actually areas:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/natural ), but I'd like to see
it used for topographical features (most of all features that are
currently tagged with natural are indeed topographical features, e.g.
lakes, bays, woods, springs, beaches, ...)
I am opposing the interpretation of "natural" as a class in contrast
to "man_made", as it is not a sufficient distinction (too few main
classes, hence it leads to exceptions and inconsequencies (everything
natural besides x, y and foo, and bar, and z, and w, and t and...
which are covered by the keys ...)).

cheers,
Martin

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-07-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/7/2 Johan Jönsson :
> I would like to see something more general like award=blue_flag  or
> award=fee_blue_flag
>
> where the award-key could be used for all kind of awarded ratings, hotel-
> stars, michelin-stars, camping-stars, barcelona-restaurant-forks and so forth


-1
I don't see any benefit from a more generic awards or rating key for
specific ratings or awards. This will only cause conflicts, lead to
multiple values and ambiguity.

Btw.: hotel-stars are already covered by "stars" (also too generic
IMHO, there is IIRC different hotel rating systems which are not
compatible):
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stars

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=bare_rock

2012-07-02 Thread Martin Vonwald (Imagic)
Am 02.07.2012 um 22:09 schrieb sabas88 :

> I'd opt for landcover system.

+1 for landcover. IMO the tag natural should not be used for areas (yes, I 
know, currently it is used often for areas).
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-07-02 Thread Johan Jönsson
Martin Koppenhoefer  writes:

> 
> 2012/6/27 Janko Mihelić  gmail.com>:
> > I got an answer about gray flags on their site:
> >
> >> The grey flags are Blue Flag sites not in Blue Flag season yet: this means
> >> they have been awarded the Blue Flag, but will comply with all criteria 
when
> >> their season starts, later in the summer.
> > So some beaches are only blue flag compliant during some seasons. I think
> > this is too much information for osm right now. fee_blue_flag=yes should be
> > enough.
> 
> or tag those fee_blue_flag=grey (or similar)?
> 
> cheers,
> Martin
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I would like to see something more general like award=blue_flag  or 
award=fee_blue_flag  

where the award-key could be used for all kind of awarded ratings, hotel-
stars, michelin-stars, camping-stars, barcelona-restaurant-forks and so forth

As the grey flag on the web-site only indicates a blue flag beach out of 
season, it should be something like:
blue_flag:season=May-Oct





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Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=bare_rock

2012-07-02 Thread sabas88
2012/7/2 Johan Jönsson 

> This is an old proposal that have been discussed before. It seem to be in
> use
> according to tag watch, so I have been urged to make this official.
>
> There are also similar tags in use and others proposed but that doesn´t
> mean
> this one could be approved.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/bare_rock
>
>
>
There are some proposals, it's not a very clear situation (bare_rock, rock,
bedrock), no way to tag the typology of the rock..
I tagged bare_rock both with natural and landcover key to be sure...

I'd opt for landcover system.

Regards,
Stefano

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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-07-02 Thread Johan Jönsson
Simone Saviolo  writes:
> 
> Yes, in fact, that's what I meant. Every single beach area in the 
municipality has been awarded the flag. I am still a bit unsure, though: do 
you know of cities in which only some of the beaches/marinas have the flag, 
and others don't?
> 

I Gothenburg, Sweden we had the blue flag on some of our sea baths but not 
all. I think we abandonded it because of the cost for the tests and so, I 
think that when a commune decides to apply for the blue flag they will get as 
many of the baths  as possible.




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[Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=bare_rock

2012-07-02 Thread Johan Jönsson
This is an old proposal that have been discussed before. It seem to be in use 
according to tag watch, so I have been urged to make this official.

There are also similar tags in use and others proposed but that doesn´t mean 
this one could be approved.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/bare_rock




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