Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=escape_lane

2012-10-12 Thread AJ Ashton
As a data consumer, +1 to the idea of highway=service, service=escape_lane. This combo is enough information to avoid any confusion about what the purpose of the way is, while also fitting with existing common data/render schemes. To be absolutely safe with regard to routing, an appropriate dissuas

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=escape_lane

2012-10-12 Thread David ``Smith''
I agree this should be highway=service, service=escape_lane. Also note, if I'm thinking of the right thing, in the US this is usually called a "runaway truck ramp". This phrase should appear in the feature docuentation somewhere. ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] Narrow Bridge (was: Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»)

2012-10-12 Thread Stephen Hope
Eric, The English version did say that at one point, as well, before it was changed back to the current definition. Maybe the French one was copied from it during that period. Stephen On 13 October 2012 04:49, Eric SIBERT wrote: > >> Indeed, as pointed out by Martin, I have to use lanes=1. I

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/12 Martin Koppenhoefer : > 2012/10/12 Eric SIBERT : >> No. It would indicate that it can't be used by vehicles. sorry, I got you wrong here, thought you wanted to exclude them (foot-bridge). cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/12 Eric SIBERT : > No. It would indicate that it can't be used by vehicles. if there are no legal restrictions one step or also 2 won't be an unsurmountable obstacle for most vehicles. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Eric SIBERT
you could use lanes=1 on the narrow parts. Agree. - a bridge or a raft with a bad link to the road/track i.e. a step at each end of the bridge/raft. obstacle=unevenness ? or obstacle=step? For me unevenness is to soft for what you describe. split the way and put a short highway=steps, step

[Tagging] Narrow Bridge (was: Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»)

2012-10-12 Thread Eric SIBERT
- a narrow bridge i.e. you can't cross a vehicle in opposite direction. We may use width=* but it is difficult to get it precisely. obstacle=narrowness It's slightly offtopic, but wouldn't it be logical to use "car" as a non accurate unit of length? So you can have a tag like "width=

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Hi In the UK local authorities are responsible for public rights of way. Paths, bridleways etc. There are so called Best Value Performance Indicators (BVPI) that require them to survey a certain % length of these each year to measure the ease of use of the network. Documentation and forms f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=escape_lane (Craig Wallace)

2012-10-12 Thread José Juan Sánchez del Arco
Maybe, but I think we shouldn't tag strips of road which are not intended for driving in any way but for stopping as highway=service. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Dave Sutter
I think we should work on making it easier to link to OSM from outside. People can discuss which entities should and should not be a part of the map as opposed to being part of an external database. The same issue came up with regard to ferry schedules and whether they should be included in the ma

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=escape_lane

2012-10-12 Thread Craig Wallace
On 12/10/2012 16:38, José Juan Sánchez del Arco wrote: I have updated an old proposal, relating to highways, escape lanes for trucks and cars alongside motorways to stop them. Please visit the proposal page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/escape_lane I think this is just a

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi Tobias, Am Freitag, 12. Oktober 2012, 13:13:47 schrieb Tobias Knerr: > New players should indeed be treated the same as dominating platforms > (see Flickr): If they want OSM integration, they should link to OSM, not > the other way around. well, except that linking to OSM is notoriously diffic

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Richard Smith
On 12/10/2012 09:57, Pieren wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: I think that contact info of an amenity (allow me to group shops, restaurants, bars, and companies under that umbrella just for a minute) should be considered all of equal importance. They are amenities

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/12 Eric Sibert : > - a narrow bridge i.e. you can't cross a vehicle in opposite direction. We > may use width=* but it is difficult to get it precisely. obstacle=narrowness you could use lanes=1 on the narrow parts. "narrowness" is a very relative concept and I wouldn't encourage you to u

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/10/12 Eric Sibert > - a narrow bridge i.e. you can't cross a vehicle in opposite direction. We > may use width=* but it is difficult to get it precisely. obstacle=narrowness > It's slightly offtopic, but wouldn't it be logical to use "car" as a non accurate unit of length? So you can have a

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Eric Sibert
Hi, During my last travel in Africa, I was thinking on how to map obstacles on road. So I support your proposal but in a generalized way, not only for pedestrian or bicycle. And I take the opportunity to review what I observed: - a narrow bridge i.e. you can't cross a vehicle in opposite

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 11.10.2012 20:52, Alexander wrote: > I am trying to establish a standard for external links to various > platforms (including but not only facbook, qype, foursquare etc.) [...] > I wouldn't like to limit the tagging to these dominating platforms. New > players should be threaten equally. Maybe t

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/12 Pieren > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > > > by that reasoning, we should remove all the bars, all the shops, all the > > restaurants, all the companies, all the fuel stations, all the parking > > information (a free parking may become a ticket-only parking

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/12 Pieren : > Read my post carefully. I'm not asking to remove anything. I'm saying > that most of this information is quickly outdated in OSM and that > other services like google are doing it better than us. yes, others (like Apple) are doing worse ;-) Unfortunately neither of them lets

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/12 Pieren : > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > >> I think that contact info of an amenity (allow me to group shops, >> restaurants, bars, and companies under that umbrella just for a minute) >> should be considered all of equal importance. > > They are amenities

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: > by that reasoning, we should remove all the bars, all the shops, all the > restaurants, all the companies, all the fuel stations, all the parking > information (a free parking may become a ticket-only parking), all the names > of the build

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/12 Pieren > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > > > I think that contact info of an amenity (allow me to group shops, > > restaurants, bars, and companies under that umbrella just for a minute) > > should be considered all of equal importance. > > They are ameniti

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: > I think that contact info of an amenity (allow me to group shops, > restaurants, bars, and companies under that umbrella just for a minute) > should be considered all of equal importance. They are amenities that stay for long time like po

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/12 Eugene Alvin Villar > However, I personally don't think your example of putting the URLs to > a place's webpage on foursquare, Google+, Yelp, TripAdvisor, etc. is > the way to go. > > OSM is not a link directory so adding many such links on the OSM > database doesn't seem appropriate.