Re: [Tagging] château

2012-12-11 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:38 AM, A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.comwrote:


 historic:castle  castle_type=château:  would have been nice if something
 else that historic had been chosen, because those châteaux' history is
 very very short.

 Your opinion...


very short is always relative. In US, everything older than 50..75 years
is historic ;)
I second others answers : historic=manor or mansion would be good
enough. If you don't like historic then use building if you like but
avoid localized tags if the english equivalent exists.

Pieren
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Re: [Tagging] château

2012-12-11 Thread A.Pirard.Papou

On 2012-12-11 11:19, Pieren wrote :
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:38 AM, A.Pirard.Papou 
a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote:



historic:castle  castle_type=château:  would have been nice if
something else that historic had been chosen, because those
châteaux' history is very very short.

Your opinion...


very short is always relative. In US, everything older than 50..75 
years is historic ;)
OK. And  historic=castle castle_type=château presents the option 
alongside the other ones vs standalone.

I may propose that after all.
I second others answers : historic=manor or mansion would be good 
enough. If you don't like historic then use building if you like 
but avoid localized tags if the english equivalent exists.
 I think that we should use en:château if it exists in the English 
dictionaries for exactly what we are about.

Go to a wine shop and ask for a Mansion Lafitte ;-)

*Before my proposition, please +1/-1 your opinion by updating this : *
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/building:château 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/building:ch%C3%A2teau


BTW, can several type tags like this one and   tourism=hotel coexist?
Or will the renderer loop?  (OK, we don't tag for the renderer ;-))

Thank you.

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Re: [Tagging] château

2012-12-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I have no opinion on whether the proposed value should exist or not, but I
do prefer that we avoid diacritics like that circumflex on top of the 'a'
for enumerated values like building=* or historic=*.


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:53 PM, A.Pirard.Papou
a.pirard.pa...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 2012-12-11 11:19, Pieren wrote :

 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:38 AM, A.Pirard.Papou 
 a.pirard.pa...@gmail.comwrote:


 historic:castle  castle_type=château:  would have been nice if something
 else that historic had been chosen, because those châteaux' history is
 very very short.

 Your opinion...


 very short is always relative. In US, everything older than 50..75 years
 is historic ;)

 OK. And  historic=castle castle_type=château presents the option alongside
 the other ones vs standalone.
 I may propose that after all.

 I second others answers : historic=manor or mansion would be good
 enough. If you don't like historic then use building if you like but
 avoid localized tags if the english equivalent exists.

  I think that we should use en:château if it exists in the English
 dictionaries for exactly what we are about.
 Go to a wine shop and ask for a Mansion Lafitte ;-)

 *Before my proposition, please +1/-1 your opinion by updating this : *
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/building:château

 BTW, can several type tags like this one and   tourism=hotel  coexist?
 Or will the renderer loop?  (OK, we don't tag for the renderer ;-))

 Thank you.


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Re: [Tagging] château

2012-12-11 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:53 PM, A.Pirard.Papou
a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Go to a wine shop and ask for a Mansion Lafitte ;-)

You can use Château in the tag name. But we are talking here about a
common tag for the building or its compound, no ? If you don't like
mansion or manor, you still have options like vineyard_estate or
domain. I don't like castle here because it has really nothing to
do with a castle, a fortress or even a defensive dwelling.
In the same way, a water tower is called in French Château d'eau.
But we don't tag it with amenity=castle + castle_type=water_tower...

Pieren

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Re: [Tagging] standpipes

2012-12-11 Thread Richard Welty

On 12/8/12 7:28 AM, Guillaume Allegre wrote:

Le ven. 07 d�c. 2012 à 17:07 -0600, Paul Johnson a ecrit :

As a USian, I've only seen dry riser myself for this item...


I do not know what is the right term to use as main tag, but I think
the distinction wet/dry, if available, should be a subkey like :
emergency=riser
riser:type=dry


i'm ok with this, although i do want to point out that what we're mapping
are the inlets or intakes, not the whole system. i'd like the tagging to 
reflect

that. not quite sure what that should look like.

richard


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