Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013-10-15 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 14 October 2013 16:35, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
>
> 2013/10/14 Richard Mann 
>>
>> bicycle=no on the entry/exit node should suffice for routing
>
> +1, for routing that should be sufficient, but not for mapping ;-)
> If they are explicitly forbidden on all ways it would not be bad to have it
> on all ways as explicit tag (IMHO).

That rather depends on whether bicycle=no is interpreted to mean "no
cycling" or "no bicycles" -- which seems to be the key thing we need
to agree on first.

Robert.

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Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-15 Thread François Lacombe
Render update ticket has been created on git hub :

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/230


Cheers.

*François Lacombe*

francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
http://www.infos-reseaux.com


2013/10/13 François Lacombe 

>
> 2013/10/13 Ole Nielsen / osm 
>
>> I surely wouldn't associate CERN with "distribution". They may have their
>> own internal industrial distribution network but "substation=industrial"
>> is more appropriate for such internal facilities.
>>
>
> +1 substation=industrial
>
>
>> The idea behind "transmission" and "distribution" is to provide data
>> consumers a hint about the role of the substation without having to look
>> for the voltage tag (which may be missing or having multiple ;-separated
>> values). The 100 kV specified threshold is only a guideline and if the
>> mapper think that a 70 kV substation is mainly for transmission then it
>> may be indicated as such. Another example: 132/10 kV substations are not
>> uncommon in Denmark and they seem most appropriately to be considered
>> distribution stations.
>>
>
> The question is to know which is the target of that kind of "hint" and
> will everyone will understand it as such ?
>
> You're assuming 132 kV/10 kV substation are for distribution because you
> find 10 kV inside but operator can use it a way OSM won't know.
>
> That's why I'm tagging substation=transmission each time voltage goes
> above 30 kV inside the substation. IMHO
>
>
>> I'm open to suggestions for alternatives to "distribution". Martin
>> suggested "local_distribution" which is a bit long but otherwise a
>> possibility. Some other ideas: "local" or "minor"?. I am just looking for
>> a way to clearly distinguish those low voltage substations from other
>> substations.
>>
>
>
>
>> BTW, "transformer=distribution" is currently defined as meaning a
>> transformer supplying low voltage!
>>
>
> I'm ok with that.
>
>
>
> *François Lacombe*
>
> francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
> http://www.infos-reseaux.com
>
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