[Tagging] Utility tag values replacement
Hi, I was told of the utility=* key when discussing about a connex topic. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/utility#values Some of the values associated with this particular key should (don't have to but should) be replaced by more common and approved tags. Here is some items. Don't do mass edit but look carefully to each object. utility=pole = power=pole (or power=tower) - Only if the pole carries power lines. utility=power_sub_station = power=substation utility=electric = power=* - We have to choose the value which best match the need. utility=electricity = power=* - Idem utility=power = power=* - Idem utility=power_station = power=substation or power=plant - Depends of what is it actually, a plant or a substation ? Have a look to power map features https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_features#Power Feel free to let us know if you mind this replacement. Cheers. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Utility tag values replacement
On 07.04.2014 15:53, François Lacombe wrote: Hi, I was told of the utility=* key when discussing about a connex topic. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/utility#values Some of the values associated with this particular key should (don't have to but should) be replaced by more common and approved tags. Here is some items. Don't do mass edit but look carefully to each object. utility=pole = power=pole (or power=tower) - Only if the pole carries power lines. What about man_made=pole/mast/tower ? utility=power_sub_station = power=substation utility=electric = power=* - We have to choose the value which best match the need. utility=electricity = power=* - Idem utility=power = power=* - Idem utility=power_station = power=substation or power=plant - Depends of what is it actually, a plant or a substation ? Have a look to power map features https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_features#Power I do not mind if you retag the real power facilities but think it is enough to simply add your tags and leave the rest as utility=* does not interfere with power=* . Feel free to let us know if you mind this replacement. Please always try to get in contact with the original editor. We had a discussion about how to tag telephone cable some month ago, do you remember ? Maybe someone tries to better group these kind of infrastructure. Do not think that utility is the best name though as it is too unspecific and leaves room for to much interpretation. My 2 cents fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Utility tag values replacement
Hi 2014-04-07 18:40 GMT+02:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: What about man_made=pole/mast/tower ? It was discussed month ago on this mailing-list and it was a pain to get it adopted, and then failed. We do have power=tower and power=pole, I'll let the one who will try to map telephone and CATV to get the consensus on multi-utility tower/pole. Maybe it will be me, but I currently don't have time to spend on it. I do not mind if you retag the real power facilities but think it is enough to simply add your tags and leave the rest as utility=* does not interfere with power=* . At first sight yes, but each case is an example for new contributors and what will they choose if both tags are on the object ? There are no compatibility issues regarding 1000 objects. It won't be the same when 1k of them would have been added. My point is most of power=* values have been adopted and everyone get the occasion to give its opinion where utility=* doesn't. Please always try to get in contact with the original editor. We had a discussion about how to tag telephone cable some month ago, do you remember ? Maybe someone tries to better group these kind of infrastructure. I'll ask him, indeed. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - No votes for proposals opening_hours_holiday_select and opening_hours_open_until
Hi I created two proposals for which the time to vote is over but there are no votes :(. Should we open the voting once again or what is the usual procedure in such a case? The proposals are: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_holiday_select http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_open_until -- Live long and prosper Robin Schneider ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - No votes for proposals opening_hours_holiday_select and opening_hours_open_until
Hi Robin, On 07.04.2014 22:11, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote: I created two proposals for which the time to vote is over but there are no votes :(. Should we open the voting once again or what is the usual procedure in such a case? The proposals are: that voting for a proposal is nothing more than a rough indication of the opinion of the people actually stated their opinion. You could have asked at your local regular's table, in the forum or the mailing list. It's just a different tool to do the community communication process of getting a common understanding about the meaning of specific tags. If no one is interested in your tags, then probably it's of no use to the community. And we're too much of a Do-ocracy in this case. No one is interested in people solving problems which only exist in theory. If your tool can evaluate a specific patter, then do it and document it. If it's reasonable then people will follow that tagging. If not a discussion will arise in the future. I would imagine most people would handle places without a specific opening hour similar I would do. If it's not possible to specify some core hours which are certainly open, I would not specify at all. It's simply not possible to evaluate it automatically with a reasonable effort. So if a business refuses to tell me when they're open, then they have to accept that software giving hints about open now won't list them. Similar to the open as long as customers are there closing time... Stephan ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
