[Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Some data of the map changes often, in particular what's on the road: traffic signs, bus lines etc. It would be interesting if someone tackling a region could determine what in his interests was checked the longest ago.  Hence the need for a date at the

Re: [Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread David
Andre, good post. I like the idea that entries be dated. Like you, i see problems with using the word survey. In this context, could mean two things. Maybe the simplest would be date= ??? Or current= ??? Like you, i'd strongly recommend ISO date format. David . André Pirard

Re: [Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-09 8:31 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: And that maxspeed thing is the strangest one ever. source=* almost says that source:maxspeed http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed=* is an admitted mistake but that you are not compelled to make the mistake and

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-09 Thread Henning Scholland
Hi I don't know if this would be a good idea. Of course it would be the correct tagging, but on the other hand the typical interpretation of amenity=atm is, that you get real money. As this fact is kind of default, it is never tagged. AFAIK bitcoin-atm only handle bitcoins, so it could lead to

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-09 13:58 GMT+02:00 Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de: I don't know if this would be a good idea. Of course it would be the correct tagging, but on the other hand the typical interpretation of amenity=atm is, that you get real money. As this fact is kind of default, it is never tagged.

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-09 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-06-09 13:58 GMT+02:00 Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de: Hi I don't know if this would be a good idea. Of course it would be the correct tagging, but on the other hand the typical interpretation of amenity=atm is, that you get real money. As this fact is kind of default, it is never

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-09 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maybe create a new tag that tells if the ATM is connected to the interbank network[1] which makes an ATM a classical ATM. For example interbank_network=yes, or interbank_network=ATH, or whichever interbank network an ATM is connected to. Maybe there are some ATMs that only take their own cards,

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-09 Thread Éric Gillet
Maybe we should move towards a scheme more specific about accepted currencies : currency:in:USD=yes currency:out:BTC=yes For a one-way Bitcoin ATM dispensing BTC in exchange of USD, for example. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe create a new tag that

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-09 11:59, Glenn Plas wrote : On 09-06-14 08:31, André Pirard wrote: Hi, Some data of the map changes often, in particular what's on the road: traffic signs, bus lines etc. It would

Re: [Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread SomeoneElse
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Actually the source:maxspeed tag was discussed years ago (2009 IIRR) on this list and by the time approved. The idea to use maxspeed:type instead is very new compared to this, and there wasn't any actual proposal to see whether this was backed by the community,

Re: [Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-09 19:25, SomeoneElse wrote : Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Actually the source:maxspeed tag was discussed years ago (2009 IIRR) on this list and by the time approved. The idea to use maxspeed:type instead is very new compared to this, and there wasn't any actual proposal to see

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-09 Thread nounours77
Janko wrote: We only have to insist on the tag cash_out=no, and then tell renderers to not render amenity=atm+cash_out=no. Sorry Janko, this is pure no-sense. Should we tag flat areas as natural=peak ele=0 and then tell the renderer not to render it as a mountain? Should we tag deserts as

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread David Bannon
I am not sure that I like (eg) survey:date A typical road will have a range of data associated with it, lets try it - source=survey name=blah highway=unclassified surface=unpaved lanes=1 survey:date=2014-06-10 I guess that makes good sense, but what if the initial source was, say, bing ?

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread Tod Fitch
Am I missing the fact that we have history on all changes and you can detect from the history when some tag like surface=unpaved was added to a way? So that takes care of the initial survey date. Maybe added a *:confirmed=yes where * is the tag (e.g. surface:confirmed=yes) if it is still

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread David Bannon
To be honest Tod, I don't think we want to add a *:confirmed= tag to every existing tag over time. But as we've both suggested, maybe the solution to Andre's issue is just to make better use of the date stamps already there ? David On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:21 -0700, Tod Fitch wrote: Am I